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Title: Black Shoes
Post by: WVABJ1807 on June 17, 2014, 08:12:58 AM
I know this topic has been beaten to death.  IN WV we are still required to wear all black shoes.  Anyone have any ideas, other than the NB as to what to wear on the field.  Looking for a good turf shoe that I can also wear on grass.  Im not a fan of the NB because of the lack of turf sole. 
Title: Re: Black Shoes
Post by: dcbarisax1 on June 17, 2014, 08:45:25 AM
3N2
http://www.3n2sports.com/c-45-officiating-all-footwear.aspx (http://www.3n2sports.com/c-45-officiating-all-footwear.aspx)

Title: Re: Black Shoes
Post by: FLbackjudge on June 17, 2014, 09:14:24 AM
Buy whatever shoe fits you comfortably, and cover the white with Leather Luster.  I used it a few years ago on Adidas shoes (both the 3 stripes and the white sides of the soles) and it lasted the entire season. It also restored an old black belt "like new" condition.  It's available at Amazon.com and other on line retailers.
Title: Re: Black Shoes
Post by: SD_Casey on June 17, 2014, 09:17:38 AM
I roll with the Reebok Zig Magistrate

http://www.honigs.com/detail.asp?Item=1465&Sub=0

I only use mine on turf and use regular cleats on grass but these seem to work pretty well.

The only complaint I have is that the gripping bumps on the bottom run around the perimeter of the shoe so there really aren't any in the middle and sometimes it feels like the middle of my foot is sagging down.

Might all be in my head but I swear I can feel it.
Title: Re: Black Shoes
Post by: WVABJ1807 on June 17, 2014, 10:44:46 AM
ON our crew, we don't wear cleats on grass or Turf.  To us it doesn't look professional.
Title: Re: Black Shoes
Post by: Rulesman on June 17, 2014, 11:16:08 AM
ON our crew, we don't wear cleats on grass or Turf.  To us it doesn't look professional.
Who's looking at the bottom of your shoes?
Title: Re: Black Shoes
Post by: WVABJ1807 on June 17, 2014, 11:31:09 AM
We jut don't think it looks very professional
Title: Re: Black Shoes
Post by: Wingmanbp on June 17, 2014, 11:50:07 AM
I roll with the Reebok Zig Magistrate

http://www.honigs.com/detail.asp?Item=1465&Sub=0

I only use mine on turf and use regular cleats on grass but these seem to work pretty well.

The only complaint I have is that the gripping bumps on the bottom run around the perimeter of the shoe so there really aren't any in the middle and sometimes it feels like the middle of my foot is sagging down.

Might all be in my head but I swear I can feel it.
Those are the shoes our crew wears. I like them. This will be our second year with them
Title: Re: Black Shoes
Post by: HLinNC on June 17, 2014, 08:56:40 PM
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ON our crew, we don't wear cleats on grass or Turf.  To us it doesn't look professional.

Unprofessional is falling on wet ground and busting your  z^ because of some silly notion that cleats are not professional.  If (and I am assuming your are in WV) your "cow pastures" are similar to ours in the mountains of NC, there are still a few around here that I will pack a pair of adidas cleats for .

I like Eastbay as a source myself but you will need to do some coloring on about anything you find.  Baseball turf shoes seem to be the closest thing to what we can use.   I have the Nike Lunar MVP Pregame in leather (seems more synthetic to me but that is what they call it)

You might stumble over some of the old Reebok NFL's or other styles on ebay.

http://www.eastbay.com/Baseball/Shoes/_-_/N-1e4ZneZa5Zba/keyword-turf?cm_REF=Black
Title: Re: Black Shoes
Post by: RS on June 18, 2014, 08:27:24 AM
Boombah (softball turf shoes) make a good all black shoe for officiating.

Title: Re: Black Shoes
Post by: VALJ on June 18, 2014, 10:09:24 AM
I love my pair of Pentagons, personally.  Most comfortable shoe I've had since the year I splurged on the Reebok NFL shoes:

http://www.honigs.com/detail.asp?Item=1143&Sub=185

I have heard some great things about those Reebok Magistrates, though, and I'm leaning towards getting a pair of those this season.
Title: Re: Black Shoes
Post by: TampaSteve on June 19, 2014, 07:09:44 AM
Tell ya what, 10 years ago it was easy to find a good pair of all black officials' shoes. 
Nowadays it's quite difficult...so much so, States have woken up to this fact and allowed for black and white.
Feel for the guys in WV and elsewhere that still have to wear all black.
Title: Re: Black Shoes
Post by: HLinNC on June 19, 2014, 11:42:12 AM
Our state approved white.   Our RSO doesn't want the white midsole so I'm still coloring.

The first season the state office allowed, I bought a pair of the Reebok Zigs with the white zig sole.  Guess which shoe was first on his slide of non-approved models at the association meeting?  Turned around and ordered a pair of the all black.

That white foam material doesn't hold my traditional black permanent marker covered by liquid polish well nor long.
Title: Re: Black Shoes
Post by: Rulesman on June 19, 2014, 12:53:01 PM
Is it safe to assume those who insist on all-black haven't been on the field in a few years? Old habits die hard.  ::)
Title: Re: Black Shoes
Post by: HLinNC on June 19, 2014, 03:01:28 PM
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Is it safe to assume those who insist on all-black haven't been on the field in a few years?

In our case, never been is more accurate.

Hoops guy.
Title: Re: Black Shoes
Post by: Wingmanbp on June 19, 2014, 03:07:49 PM
To our crew it looks better, and they are much easier to keep clean. We are a 3rd year crew.
Title: Re: Black Shoes
Post by: VALJ on June 19, 2014, 04:05:05 PM
Is it safe to assume those who insist on all-black haven't been on the field in a few years? Old habits die hard.  ::)

Our association voted for all black.  If nothing else, it prevents the "how much white is too much white" philosophical discussion.

Not saying I agree with that decision...
Title: Re: Black Shoes
Post by: bossman72 on June 20, 2014, 09:06:07 AM
If nothing else, it prevents the "how much white is too much white" philosophical discussion.

Not saying I agree with that decision...

I guarantee this is why some states go with all black.  PA is still all black
Title: Re: Black Shoes
Post by: Etref on June 20, 2014, 10:00:18 AM
When NFL,NCAA and some conferences opened the door, the shoe manufacturers largely did away with the all black concept.
Title: Re: Black Shoes- ONLY ONE LEFT!!!!
Post by: HLinNC on June 20, 2014, 11:18:05 AM
Size 8- $35.00  (http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-79672787400584_2263_1442710)

http://www.eakofficials.com/spotbilt-leather-turf-shoe.html (http://www.eakofficials.com/spotbilt-leather-turf-shoe.html)
Title: Re: Black Shoes
Post by: Ralph Damren on June 23, 2014, 09:59:28 AM
Who's looking at the bottom of your shoes?
Slugs and stuff a' crawling in the mud.
Title: Re: Black Shoes
Post by: Tom.OH on June 23, 2014, 01:28:29 PM
Our state approved white.   Our RSO doesn't want the white midsole so I'm still coloring.

The first season the state office allowed, I bought a pair of the Reebok Zigs with the white zig sole.  Guess which shoe was first on his slide of non-approved models at the association meeting?  Turned around and ordered a pair of the all black.

That white foam material doesn't hold my traditional black permanent marker covered by liquid polish well nor long.

I like Nike Landshark shoes. Last year to cover the white on the side of the sole I found some Liquid electric tape. It is in a brush top can. I found it at Lowes and it is even at Wal-Mart. I was not sure how it would hold up but to my suprise it lasted the whole season without any pealing.
Title: Re: Black Shoes
Post by: HLinNC on June 23, 2014, 02:46:25 PM
Thanks, Tom.OH.  I'll check it out.  Need a supply run to WallyWorld anyway.
Title: Re: Black Shoes
Post by: bossman72 on June 24, 2014, 03:07:59 PM
The all-black shoes just look sooo.... orthopedic
Title: Re: Black Shoes
Post by: ReverendRef on June 27, 2014, 02:14:41 PM
I like the Adidas Turf Hog shoes.  Besides the standard Adidas white logo stuff, they also make an all black version.  They tend to run small though, so you might need a half size larger than you normally wear.
Title: Re: Black Shoes
Post by: dcbarisax1 on June 30, 2014, 01:07:29 PM
... Adidas Turf Hog shoes.  They tend to run small though, so you might need a half size larger than you normally wear.

How do they feel otherwise?  Will they hold up for all 4 qtrs or will they let you down by halftime?  I've worn Reeboks before and they weren't for crap after halftime.  I'm a bigger guy so I need something that can hold up and still be comfortable lol!
Title: Re: Black Shoes
Post by: VALJ on July 01, 2014, 07:15:22 AM
I'm a bigger guy so I need something that can hold up and still be comfortable lol!

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D2 NWAFOA UMPIRE

The latter definitely proves the former.   ;D sNiCkErS
Title: Re: Black Shoes
Post by: WVABJ1807 on July 01, 2014, 09:34:27 AM
I do have these shoes. I do like them, I had to change the laces in them though.  Don't liekthe old fashioned laces.  IM looking for a pair of mid cut shoes.  Since we have gone to pants, I need to wear mid cut shoes bc of ankle issues.  When we wore knickers I didn't like the look of mid cut shoes, now you cant tell.  Any suggestions.
Title: Re: Black Shoes
Post by: ljudge on July 02, 2014, 09:40:59 AM
ON our crew, we don't wear cleats on grass or Turf.  To us it doesn't look professional.

No disrespect but what is the definition of "looking professional?"  Serious question.  Someone made a comment to me a few years ago while working on a high school chain crew playoff game that he felt the shoes I was wearing weren't "professional."  Ironically they were brand new Reebok shoes the NFL gave to me that I use as a game-day assistant.  I could no longer use the shoes because we now have a Nike contract and cannot use for NCAA because my conference has a contract with adidas.  I only wore the shoes 5 times as I was only a backup that season.  I was only helping my high school association as I lived close to the venue and had off for that weekend.  So I asked the guy why he thought I was unprofessional given there's no requirement of any kind for chain crews and his comment was I was "advertising."  I just shook my head and my shoes looked 20 times nicer than his.  Now if it were sneakers that's another story (which I have seen on TV from guys working state semi-finals which was a disgrace).
Title: Re: Black Shoes
Post by: ReverendRef on July 03, 2014, 05:55:14 PM
dcbarisax1: "How do they feel otherwise?"

They work for me.  That's the thing about shoes though, one man's comfort is another man's hell.

May I suggest going through zappos.com.  They have a good selection of everything, their return/exchange policy is great, and their customer service is top notch.  That's actually where I purchased my pair.