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Football Officiating => General Discussion => Topic started by: mfortier on November 13, 2014, 06:29:29 PM
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Has your state or assoc. switched over to the wider stripes shirts? Trying to get a count on how many States have made the switch or planning to switch over the next year. Thanks
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Texas switches in 2016 but you can use in 2015 of whole crew wears. It will be a 2 5/8 in stripe. (OK that part is BS)
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NC has not yet.
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California has not officially switched but some associations have. My did not switch this year but we might be next year. I normally by a new shirt every year. This year I didn't just in case we switch next year.
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Last year VA made them "optional" as long as the entire crew matched (but you could only work a playoff game in the wide stripes). They were mandatory this year.
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In Maine, next year is optional with current shirts a fallback if entire crew doesn't have them (we assign individuals to games, not crews). In 2016 the wider stripes will be required. Personal fear : the wider stripes will make me look shorter and fatter.
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Western MA went 2" 2 years ago.
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Southern CA went to 2.25" shirts option last year, mandatory at all levels (youth-varsity) this season.
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How long until we're just wearing black shirts and black track pants? Blech.
There was nothing wrong with 1-inch stripes. Especially now that television is in HD. Why is the zeitgeist insisting on reducing the number of stripes?
Maybe it's just a perverse feedback loop, where college tries to imitate the NFL, high school tries to imitate college, and the NFL keeps trying to look *UN*like the others. So there's no equilibrium.
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How long until we're just wearing black shirts and black track pants? Blech.
There was nothing wrong with 1-inch stripes. Especially now that television is in HD. Why is the zeitgeist insisting on reducing the number of stripes?
Maybe it's just a perverse feedback loop, where college tries to imitate the NFL, high school tries to imitate college, and the NFL keeps trying to look *UN*like the others. So there's no equilibrium.
...and the vendors just keep raking in the cash. pi1eOn
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We could go the soccer way, the officials have three to five different color uniforms :)
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We could go the soccer way, the officials have three to five different color uniforms :)
Same with baseball...
"Pro" Blue(powder)
Navy
Black
Cream
Red
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Same with baseball...
"Pro" Blue(powder)
Navy
Black
Cream
Red
I wish guys would actually buy those so we could wear them!
PA standard is Navy. Powder blue (blue collar) is optional. Not too many have more colors than that.
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is PA going 2 inch??
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next year optional 2016 mandatory 2 1/4 stripes.
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I wish guys would actually buy those so we could wear them!
PA standard is Navy. Powder blue (blue collar) is optional. Not too many have more colors than that.
Texas just changed the default to black.
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Arkansas went 2" two years ago.
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is PA going 2 inch??
I haven't heard anything... I would venture to guess NO.
I really don't see any need to change for the sake of looking like college, personally
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I haven't heard anything... I would venture to guess NO. I really don't see any need to change for the sake of looking like college, personally
Actually, there's a much more practical reason. With the conversion to black pants (which most officials agree is the next best thing to sliced bread) wing officials are much harder to pick out of the crowd on sidelines, especially in front of team box areas.
The wider stripes (College, semi-pro) make it much easier, and quicker, to pick out the wing officials and their signals. Given the options of going back to knickers, or white pants (NEVER happen) or wider stripes, making the stripes wider actually works and seems a much better choice.
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Is that actuality the reasoning? Because I do have trouble finding my wings from time to time.
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SD & Al,
Is there talk of your States/Assoc. going to the wider stripes?? Any other States or Assoc. talking about going wider?
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Is that actuality the reasoning?
That's Al's rationale. I think the rest of us believe it is the greedy corporate boogerheads (courtesy of Bloom County) finding a way to raise profits on an otherwise stagnant business model.
This will merely drive the NCAA/CFO to come up with their own design so as not to be aligned with us bottom feeders at the HS level >:D
However, I will freely admit, I was wrong about the black pants and will forever beg forgiveness of Dick Honig for ever doubting him :bOW
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My only trouble finding the wings is tall players on a very high pitched field and short wings. ;D
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Is that actuality the reasoning? Because I do have trouble finding my wings from time to time.
In a previous life I may have been a bird.
If I was a bird, I don't believe I'd have a problem finding my wings.
As a human, finding my wings has never been an issue.
As a Zebra z^, it has.
Good point, AL -even though you might be a Yankee fan. :)
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My only trouble finding the wings is tall players on a very high pitched field and short wings. ;D
...or seeing through the U. sNiCkErS
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...or seeing through the U. sNiCkErS
LOL
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SD & Al,
Is there talk of your States/Assoc. going to the wider stripes?? Any other States or Assoc. talking about going wider?
SDHSAA approved use of 2" stripes for this season. 1" stripes are still the standard up here but as of this season we are allowed to use 2" stripes with no plackets. Our crew did not make the switch this year but might next year.
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Is it true the NFHS is going to mandate 2" stripes at some point?
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Is that actuality the reasoning? Because I do have trouble finding my wings from time to time.
My first thought is that you don't need wider stripes - you need wider wings...
But then I'm an U so nAnA sNiCkErS
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I moved from Ohio to AZ this season. Back in Ohio we used 1" with no markings. Nothing like being able to buy an inexpensive shirt. Come to AZ and find out they no only use the 2 1/4" shirt, they also use the placard and an AIA logo on the front and American flag on the sleeve. Ok still not too expense, except that it has to be dye sublimated chi-chang 50 bucks. So much for my half a dozen shirts in my closet.
So now the wrestling season has started, again Ohio used standard 1" collarless shirt no logos equals inexpensive. AZ uses the grey pinstripes with dye subliminated logo on front and American flaq on the sleeve - Another $50. And of course in the past when I had a number of shirts I didn't have to go home and wash the shirt for the match the next day, now I either have to pony up another $50 or run that washer when I get home after a match so I have a clean shirt for the next day's event.
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Is it true the NFHS is going to mandate 2" stripes at some point?
No...they are allowing the states / chapters / crews to make that decision.
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Oklahoma has allowed 2 inch stripes in the past, but said that playoff crews will still wear 1 inch striped.
That changes next year, where the mandatory playoff uniform is 2 inch stripes.
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Oklahoma has allowed 2 inch stripes in the past, but said that playoff crews will still wear 1 inch striped.
That changes next year, where the mandatory playoff uniform is 2 inch stripes.
If the court allows Oklahoma to play high school football next year... :sTiR:
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Watched a game in the Ohio playoffs on TV and the officials were wearing 2" (or 2 1/4" ) stripes. This makes me think they will be optional in 2015 and required in 2016, that's how the black pants were done a few years ago.
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In the State of Tennessee the finals were mandatory 2" stripes with next year being mandatory all year. Most of the associations in the state made the change this year.
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Is that actuality the reasoning? Because I do have trouble finding my wings from time to time.
I was referencing the view from a pressbox, where the game clock is usually operated from. If you can't see your linesman and line judge from ground level, the issue may be more complicated that the width of the stripes.
Whether timproved visibility is a reason for wider stripes, or just an unintended benefit, I couldn't say, but it makes a noticible difference.
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I was referencing the view from a pressbox, where the game clock is usually operated from. If you can't see your linesman and line judge from ground level, the issue may be more complicated that the width of the stripes.
Whether timproved visibility is a reason for wider stripes, or just an unintended benefit, I couldn't say, but it makes a noticible difference.
Boy you're right about that. I think most of the visibility issues I cited have more to do with field lighting than anything. You say "pressbox" as if you were sitting in a real pressbox. Most of the fields I work it looks more like a deer stand.