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Football Officiating => Texas Topics => Topic started by: mobetta285 on November 21, 2014, 12:38:17 PM

Title: Thorndale v. Ben Bolt
Post by: mobetta285 on November 21, 2014, 12:38:17 PM
News stated that the officials called the game with around 2 and a half minutes left in the game. I know that there were a ton of personal fouls, unsportsmanlike penalties, etc. and one occurred that precipitated the ending of the game. We all know we can't "call" a game over until 0:00 is left on the clock. Was this an agreement reached by the coaches?

Hard to believe that this would happen in an Area round of the playoffs.
Title: Re: Thorndale v. Ben Bolt
Post by: TXMike on November 21, 2014, 12:44:17 PM
Stay tuned. I'm sure you will hear and see things and even later rounds of the playoffs that you can't believe. Things that actually had an impact on a game like this particular situation which, although it seems was handled strangely, had no effect on the game.
Title: Re: Thorndale v. Ben Bolt
Post by: TexDoc on November 21, 2014, 01:17:52 PM
And now, the rest of the story....I wonder what will fill in the blanks on this one.  Very odd.
Title: Re: Thorndale v. Ben Bolt
Post by: mobetta285 on November 21, 2014, 02:28:57 PM
I agree Mike. The game was already decided. Just odd that it would happen in the 2nd round of the playoffs. 'Tis what it is. Good luck to all this weekend.
Title: Re: Thorndale v. Ben Bolt
Post by: TXMike on November 21, 2014, 03:12:21 PM
It definitely was odd at this stage of the game.  Much as I would like to keep working week after week, I definitely don't want to be The guy that had "that game" that everyone starts talking about.
Title: Re: Thorndale v. Ben Bolt
Post by: 940AC on November 21, 2014, 11:11:33 PM
Coaches are responsible for the actions of their players. It sounds like they were not policing their team and caused this game to get out of hand.
Title: Re: Thorndale v. Ben Bolt
Post by: TXMike on November 21, 2014, 11:22:07 PM
Not sure we know enough about it yet to put it on both coaches. It could have been just one team acting up and the crew decided flags were not stopping them so just stop the game. (Not saying that wast he right action to take though)
Title: Re: Thorndale v. Ben Bolt
Post by: fitz13 on November 22, 2014, 01:07:47 AM
http://www.alicetx.com/sports/article_5499f3ea-f915-51e5-a999-6769cd10a0ed.html
Title: Re: Thorndale v. Ben Bolt
Post by: Etref on November 22, 2014, 08:42:08 AM
According to Doc' spreadsheet SA had the game
Title: Re: Thorndale v. Ben Bolt
Post by: rsquare on November 23, 2014, 09:06:14 AM
Houston Chapter did not have that game
Title: Re: Thorndale v. Ben Bolt
Post by: Etref on November 29, 2014, 10:53:15 PM
Anyone find out what really happened?
Title: Re: Thorndale v. Ben Bolt
Post by: TXMike on January 25, 2015, 02:53:37 PM
http://www.alicetx.com/sports/article_aa6a6512-e724-58ea-995e-47f975abb776.html

The UIL has take action on this incident
Title: Re: Thorndale v. Ben Bolt
Post by: TexDoc on January 26, 2015, 06:46:37 AM
"I wish they would’ve been a little more objective, seeing both sides."

What the heck is he talking about?  He's unhappy about a call or calls and he can act like a complete jackass?  That's not objectivity, that's being immature and unreasonable.  I'm very glad to see the UIL take a stand, although a bit weak, and the school district do the right thing and get rid of someone who obviously has become a liability.  Although I don't agree with leaving time on the clock, we never, ever should do that, it does appear the situation became untenable and it was time to get the game over with.

Title: Re: Thorndale v. Ben Bolt
Post by: TXMike on January 26, 2015, 07:53:50 AM
Another lesson learned here is to make sure both coaches know what you are doing when you take some action that is out of the ordinary.  (And obviously have a witness with you when you are making that communication). 

As for the coach's quoted comments...I think he was referring to the UIL, not the officials.  I believe he does not view their inquiry as objective.  The fact that they punished the other team also certainly makes it look like they were objective.  That is the first I heard that the other team had done anything with a punishment. Obviously there was evidence presented that said they did.  Seems like an objective investigation to me.
Title: Thorndale v. Ben Bolt
Post by: TxSkyBolt on January 26, 2015, 11:00:19 AM
I didn't read anything in the article about the other team being penalized.


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Title: Re: Thorndale v. Ben Bolt
Post by: TXMike on January 26, 2015, 12:03:36 PM
Sorry, I knew about it from other sources and overlooked that it had not been covered in the  article

http://www.uiltexas.org/press-releases/detail/uil-state-executive-committee-meeting-results90

http://m.taylorpress.net/mobile/sports/article_b997a940-a28c-11e4-8047-67052848eb5a.html
Title: Re: Thorndale v. Ben Bolt
Post by: TexDoc on January 26, 2015, 12:25:07 PM
The second story says that the game was prematurely halted by the Judson AD and game officials. Having the AD involved seems odd especially since his school was not involved
Title: Re: Thorndale v. Ben Bolt
Post by: TXMike on January 26, 2015, 01:38:31 PM
Every once in awhile the media gets it wrong.  ;)
Title: Re: Thorndale v. Ben Bolt
Post by: TexDoc on January 26, 2015, 03:15:16 PM
Every once in awhile the media gets it wrong.  ;)

You think? LOL