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Football Officiating => Texas Topics => Topic started by: fencewire on December 07, 2014, 09:49:45 AM
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http://www.kiiitv.com/story/27565809/refugio-coach-reacts-to-state-quarters-loss#.VIRoK85n4Op.facebook
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It really used irked me when coaches blame the loss on one or two calls. But the more we discussed it being groups it on the Internet boards and the more I heard officials say the same thing, I.e. That a call or to cost a game, the less it bothers me. And as for his public criticism, as long as her coach is just stating the facts as he sees it, I don't see the problem with him being allowed to speak freely. As long as he is not alleging dishonest or corrupt actions on the part of the officials in Billy disputing what they saw or how they enforced, why shouldn't he be allowed to speak freely?
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He was clearly wrong on the face mask it was a correct call
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This is the same coach who loves to run up the score on teams. Now he lost and he's complaining. He's just being a sore loser. Of course, my opinion.
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In his defense re running up scores...I used to coach a team that was significantly better than most of the competition. The games were in hand by the 2d quarter most times. We would pull starters and put subs in but did the other teams do the same? Nope. As a result we had younger kids getting hurt, our starters had difficulty if they did have to go a whole game, etc etc. We started leaving them in until the 4th quarter. Scores really got crazy in some cases. We did not object to the running clock or the officials who called every close thing against us while letting the opponents do almost anything. It just made our kids execute better. I do not know if that is what has happened with his team over the years but speculating it could have been.
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I am not advocating that there should be some rule to prevent his discussion of his thoughts, but more of a cooling off period that perhaps he himself should take advantage of and right after the game perhaps, no comment would be a better course of action.
He is lucky he didn't get 15 more for going down on his knees at the numbers.
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Herring: "You dont make a call like that in a game like this"... What coach, we arent supposed to call the fumble (and if you look, the ball sure as heck looks like it came out early as he was going down) and the blatant take down by the facemask?
Herring: "I am just real disappointed that the kids didnt get to determine the game". Oh but they did coach. It was just the other teams kids made the plays where yours didnt. The other teams kids didnt fumble the ball. They recovered your team's fumble. And your defensive player committed a foul that should always get called when seen.
Things not to say to a coach after a game :)
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He's gone on record to say that he isn't pulling his starters when the score is out of hand. His rationing is that his team isn't physcillay ready in the playoffs because his starters haven't played a full 4 quarters like his opponents. He may have a point, but in this case I think he's being a sore loser.
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Best screenshot I could get of the fumble play...looks loose to me.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/31756357/Fumble.png)
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Refugio was without star running back Isaiah Perez and hurt itself with almost 140 yards in penalties. (From Dave Campbell web site)
This is his real gripe. Officials doing their job and him not agreeing with them.
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There was a player from that team quoted in one news article as saying penalties have been a problem for them all year.
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There was a player from that team quoted in one news article as saying penalties have been a problem for them all year.
Well then, they must have had over-officious jerks every week.
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Nah, my crew never had them
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Well then, they must have had over-officious jerks every week.
My crew worked them this year. They earned every one of them! Undisciplined to say the least.
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My crew worked them this year. They earned every one of them! Undisciplined to say the least.
Looks like they get it from their coach. Surprise.
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my crew never had them
I don't think you're over-officious! :)
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From the video, it sure looks like the facemask was obvious.
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According to several blogs, Mason had 2 TD's called back for holding. Also a Refugio player was DQ'd (supposedly HC son) in the game and another had multiple fouls for late hits. Bottom line Refugio play's undisciplined and it cost them when they played a good team.