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Football Officiating => NCAA Discussion => Topic started by: TXMike on September 04, 2015, 05:55:49 PM

Title: Pulling off the pile
Post by: TXMike on September 04, 2015, 05:55:49 PM
Interesting answer to CFO quiz 1 question 5.   Pulling off the pile is a PF and an UNS.  That does not mean 30 yards does it ? ?  ?
Title: Re: Pulling off the pile
Post by: dvasques on September 04, 2015, 10:03:43 PM
I thought it was interesting too
Specially because there is nothing in the wording of the rule that says it's a PF
Title: Re: Pulling off the pile
Post by: ljudge on September 05, 2015, 07:51:36 AM
NO.  It's a PF because it's a contact foul and they want it to be considered as UNS so it can count as one of your strikes should you commit another.  I worked my first college game of the season the other night and our crew was vigilant of getting to piles and reminding them to ONLY help their teammates.  Good communication with the kids will prevent these fouls.
Title: Re: Pulling off the pile
Post by: TXMike on September 05, 2015, 08:13:54 AM
This is in same section  and the rule related to get all non-football related contact.  I don't recall being told to call that a personal foul and unsportsmanlike  conduct.  It was just unsportsmanlike conduct. And the penalty statement only includes the unsportsmanlike conduct .  I don't understand the significance of calling this new act personal  foul and unsportsmanlike conduct.
Title: Re: Pulling off the pile
Post by: Joe Stack on September 05, 2015, 09:30:04 PM
Even IF it was 2 fouls, they could only accept the penalty for one live ball foul. What exactly is the confusion?
Title: Re: Pulling off the pile
Post by: TXMike on September 05, 2015, 09:39:27 PM
Could be different where you are e but where I am there usually isn't a pile until the ball is dead . >:D
Title: Re: Pulling off the pile
Post by: DallasLJ on September 05, 2015, 10:20:49 PM
Even IF it was 2 fouls, they could only accept the penalty for one live ball foul. What exactly is the confusion?
 
  It is most likely going to be deadball.  Mechanically, as the pile forms, first official digs and next official signals to stop the clock.  Ball is now dead.  Then the pile continues to grow and the later comers are the ones pushing and pulling on to the pile.
Title: Re: Pulling off the pile
Post by: Legacy Zebra on September 05, 2015, 11:22:37 PM
Also, the rule starts off with "After the ball is dead...". By definition it has to be a dead ball foul.