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Football Officiating => General Discussion => Topic started by: The Roamin' Umpire on November 17, 2015, 11:44:16 AM
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http://www.athleticbusiness.com/high-school/parents-lodge-racial-bias-complaint-after-hs-team-s-loss.html?eid=318336505&bid=1236197
I guess the John Jay players have made this a thing, now?
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So they are concerned with one call, targeting, and feel it was racially motivated?
"It's one thing to disagree with an official's call," said Schreck. "It's another thing to allege that call was made intentionally for some other reason. That crosses the line in my opinion."
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Should we really be surprised? When you give a squeaky wheel all the oil it wants, whether it needs oil or not, it's likely to keep squeaking. As much as this is becoming a really silly problem with wheels choosing to squeak, the much more serious effect is how many people are over reacting to the slightest squeaks.
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And how many officials, police officers, firemen, paramedics, etc, etc will eventually say "enough is enough" and just give it up!
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And how many officials, police officers, firemen, paramedics, etc, etc will eventually say "enough is enough" and just give it up!
I love it - and view it, in part, as Community Service. It sure is not for the money. Community Service can be hard work. I do not let this stuff keep me from doing my job -- and what is right. That is what separates us from the fans and parents.
Carry on!
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And what is it they hope they gain? A replay of the game?
crazy
:-[ >:(
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When does someone say enough is enough on using the race card? Sore losers is all this is. I'm glad whoever wrote this article took the time to explain the new rule and the fact that 120 out of 125 officials are white so high possibility the crew will be all white. Where I work there are only white officials and it's not because of racism. If I ever was accussed of something like this by a school and I could scratch them for ever I would.
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Setting aside the merits, or lack thereof, of the claim, for what it's worth, I thought the author of the article actually did a good job presenting the issue, and did not immediately throw the officials under the bus. The one thing that I didn't see was what the hoped to gain from it
The Buffalo Parent-Student Athletic Organization, "an entourage that included parents, community leaders and former NFL player Demeris Johnson, and the president of the District Parent Coordinating Council all had to have their say, but the coach of the "offended" team opted out.
They filed "official complaints" with the New York State Public High Schools Athletic Association, the state education commissioner's office and U.S. Department of Education requesting a review of bias and discriminatory officiating and a review of NYSPHSAA policies and practices.
The article didn't mention the remedy they seek.
Upstate Al, this may be a little further upstate than you are, but I assume that there are rules for protesting the game, etc. This wouldn't seem to be the way to go about it.
Not a lawyer, but do any of these folks have "standing" to file these complaints in the first place? The coach is moving on, shouldn't the parents?
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SThe one thing that I didn't see was what the hoped to gain from it
The Buffalo Parent-Student Athletic Organization, "an entourage that included parents, community leaders and former NFL player Demeris Johnson, and the president of the District Parent Coordinating Council all had to have their say, but the coach of the "offended" team opted out.
They filed "official complaints" with the New York State Public High Schools Athletic Association, the state education commissioner's office and U.S. Department of Education requesting a review of bias and discriminatory officiating and a review of NYSPHSAA policies and practices.
The article didn't mention the remedy they seek.
Upstate Al, this may be a little further upstate than you are, but I assume that there are rules for protesting the game, etc.
Not a lawyer, but do any of these folks have "standing" to file these complaints in the first place? The coach is moving on, shouldn't the parents?
As far as I know, NYS adheres to NFHS: 1.1.11: "Protests of NFHS rules are not recognized."
Although, "The Buffalo Parent-Student Athletic Organization, "an entourage that included parents, community leaders and former NFL player Demeris Johnson, and the president of the District Parent Coordinating Council all had to have their say", there's no mention that anyone in this "entourage" had the foggiest idea of what they were actually talking about.
It seems that the Dam may have actually burst and every squeaky wheel feels somehow important enough to demand more oil, "and have their say".
Officials wear black AND white stripes for a reason (other than visibility), and apparently some people just can't grasp that concept, or reference.
To paraphrase Jackie ED's, more important question; " When does EVERYONE say enough is enough on using the race card?
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The way I read it, this isn't any sort of court action but a civil complaint filed with some sort of administrative board. Were it to reach court, the first question would be do these people have any standing here to bring a case?
They'll meet, harrumph around for a bit, come up with some sort of feel-good resolution, push for some more diversity in the local officials organization (which won't be a bad thing) and by next season it will be a dead issue.
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The way I read it, this isn't any sort of court action but a civil complaint filed with some sort of administrative board. Were it to reach court, the first question would be do these people have any standing here to bring a case?
They'll meet, harrumph around for a bit, come up with some sort of feel-good resolution, push for some more diversity in the local officials organization (which won't be a bad thing) and by next season it will be a dead issue.
Howard Johnson is right!
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Howard Johnson is right!
Now who can argue with that? I think we're all indebted to HLinNC for clearly stating what needed to be said. I'm particularly glad that these lovely children were here today to hear that speech. Not only was it authentic frontier gibberish, it expressed a courage little seen in this day and age.
From the reports I've seen, they're filing a complaint with a private entity to start an investigation to see if the players civil rights were violated. I still don't really know what their endgame is if this third party figures there is some basis to the claim.
Making some sort of PR move and harrumph about in the press for a week and then everybody forgets is probably their best outcome no matter what, unless there's some weird undeniable evidence to be found.
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I work a lot of football where we are the only white faces in the stadium. We meet Administrators that tell us if anyone says anything out of line let them know and that individual will be removed. My favorite place to go has multiple off duty black police officers working security. The officials parking area is fully fenced. Sam, an 82 year old black gentleman works the gate and carries a baseball bat. " You don't worry about your truck, any of those thugs come here I'll whack them in the head with my bat."
Maybe it's the attitude in some associations that they are there to play football and teach kids. Coaches get upset, players mad, but I've never felt threatened.