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Football Officiating => General Discussion => Topic started by: GAHSUMPIRE on November 21, 2015, 07:27:58 PM

Title: Your call?
Post by: GAHSUMPIRE on November 21, 2015, 07:27:58 PM

http://www.campussports.net/video-hokies-player-hits-referee-remains-in-game/ (http://www.campussports.net/video-hokies-player-hits-referee-remains-in-game/)

To me, I'm thinking this guy is done for the day. At the very least there should be a penalty, no?

Title: Re: Your call?
Post by: The Roamin' Umpire on November 21, 2015, 07:54:20 PM

Quote from: Rule 9-2-4

ARTICLE 4. Persons subject to the rules (Rule 1-1-6) shall not intentionally
contact a game official forcibly during the game.
PENALTY—Administer as a dead-ball foul. 15 yards from the succeeding
spot. Automatic first down for fouls by Team B if not in conflict
with other rules. Automatic disqualification [S7, S27 and S47].

I'm guessing that since his back was to the player, the referee thought the contact was accidental.

Title: Re: Your call?
Post by: GAHSUMPIRE on November 21, 2015, 08:09:02 PM

where's the rest of his crew?

Title: Your call?
Post by: TxSkyBolt on November 21, 2015, 08:37:48 PM

You don't flag accidental contact. Ron knew what happened and flagged the player but chose not to eject him.


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Title: Re: Your call?
Post by: AlUpstateNY on November 21, 2015, 10:09:28 PM

From viewing the tape, it appears deliberate and unbelievably disrespectful.  Anytime, anyone of us allows anyone (player, coach administrator, spectator) to flagrantly diminish, or disrespect our position and stature on the field, it lowers the required standard of behavior which makes,not only the job that much more difficult, but lowers the image of the sport.

Title: Re: Your call?
Post by: Kalle on November 22, 2015, 03:35:25 AM

In NCAA there is no option. If you flag a player for intentional contact, you must eject him. And I don't see any reason for not to eject, in this case or any other case.

Title: Re: Your call?
Post by: HLinNC on November 22, 2015, 06:21:46 AM

Welcome to big time college football guys.

Title: Re: Your call?
Post by: J12 on November 22, 2015, 09:37:12 AM

Why is this even a question? Flag and disqualification.

Title: Re: Your call?
Post by: The Roamin' Umpire on November 23, 2015, 08:26:55 AM

Quote from: TxSkyBolt on November 21, 2015, 08:37:48 PM

You don't flag accidental contact. Ron knew what happened and flagged the player but chose not to eject him.

There wasn't a flag in the original video; I didn't realize it had happened later.

If he threw the flag for contacting an official, then by rule there should have been an ejection. Perhaps there is separate guidance from the conference that we are unaware of; in any event, I'm sure that's a discussion that will take place with his supervisor (or perhaps already has).

Title: Re: Your call?
Post by: VALJ on November 23, 2015, 09:00:53 AM

Ron Cherry is a heck of an official, so I'm hoping he had a good reason, and it wasn't a case of him just missing it.

That said, I'm a Hokie, and I was amazed he didn't get tossed.

Title: Re: Your call?
Post by: bossman72 on November 23, 2015, 09:45:47 AM

Wow.  Gone.  No questions about it.