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Football Officiating => Texas Topics => Topic started by: M Buck on October 17, 2017, 12:43:15 PM
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Last night, at our Chapter meeting, I was asked an interesting question that I couldn't answer. I have never read about it. I've never experienced it in 38 years of officiating. I've never seen it at any level. Here goes.... Team A, 4th and 10 from the A25, in punt formation when Center 54 snaps the ball to punter A22 who punts the ball. He muffs the snap but recovers and punts the ball which is blocked by B78. A22 catches the blocked punt and punts the ball again which goes OOB at B45. Legal play?
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Yes. As long as the second kick is behind the line of scrimmage.
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And as long as the 1st (blocked) kick did not go beyond the LOS.
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It is legal, because it isn't prohibited. A forward pass after the ball has been in possession of an A player completely beyond the NZ is prohibited by rule. A second forward pass is prohibited by rule.
A scrimmage kick (one or multiple) made from in or behind the NZ after a previous scrimmage kick, after a fumble recovery, after a pass (forward or backward) has been completed, or after the ball has been in possession of an A player beyond the NZ is NOT prohibited, as long as a previous scrimmage kick has not crossed the NZ, and there has been no change of team possession.
The only one of those things I've seen is a Tulsa punter that tried to run for a first down, saw he wasn't going to make it, backed up behind the NZ and punted. Legal.
Would be cool to see video of the double kick play.
Robert
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I’ve actually seen that in a HS game in Texas several years ago. Playoff game I think.
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It is legal, because it isn't prohibited. A forward pass after the ball has been in possession of an A player completely beyond the NZ is prohibited by rule. A second forward pass is prohibited by rule.
A scrimmage kick (one or multiple) made from in or behind the NZ after a previous scrimmage kick, after a fumble recovery, after a pass (forward or backward) has been completed, or after the ball has been in possession of an A player beyond the NZ is NOT prohibited, as long as a previous scrimmage kick has not crossed the NZ, and there has been no change of team possession.
The only one of those things I've seen is a Tulsa punter that tried to run for a first down, saw he wasn't going to make it, backed up behind the NZ and punted. Legal.
Would be cool to see video of the double kick play.
Robert
Exactly! Legal because not prohibited.
Robert, are you from Lubbock?
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Since 1971. If I can't live in the Islands (Hawaii), the Hub is just fine by me.
Robert
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Since 1971. If I can't live in the Islands (Hawaii), the Hub is just fine by me.
Robert
OK, I know who you are then.
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I put a similar play in a weekly quiz to my crew.
Now, what happens if the punter (no kick yet) runs across the line and for some reason decides to kick it, retreats, but doesn't get back far enough and then punts.
What do you have?
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I put a similar play in a weekly quiz to my crew.
Now, what happens if the punter (no kick yet) runs across the line and for some reason decides to kick it, retreats, but doesn't get back far enough and then punts.
What do you have?
Illegal kick, ball becomes dead immediately, enforce five yards from the previous spot and a loss of down.
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How did your crew do?
100%, I trust. ;D
Robert