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Football Officiating => Texas Topics => Topic started by: TexDoc on December 21, 2018, 09:00:23 AM
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I have a bit of a beef with TASO concerning IR for the state championship games. From what is being announced, they are utilizing Big XII, ACC and other officials. Who are the technicians and the communicators? Did TASO send out any feelers to see if there are TASO members that are currently doing these jobs that could be used instead of non-TASO members? Absolutely they should. Why would TASO use non-TASO members when we do have TASO members that have the experience to work these positions?
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The RO are TASO officials in the Ft. worth chapter. All all CFO trained replay officials.
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The RO are TASO officials in the Ft. worth chapter. All all CFO trained replay officials.
That begs the next question, why only use those from the FW chapter?
I'm not trying to be difficult, although I'm usually good at that. I just want the TASO powers that be to remember there are other chapters in the state and many members qualifies to do the RO, Tech and Comms jobs, because they do this on Saturdays. We need to utilize them for these games, not just a small set of people.
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That begs the next question, why only use those from the FW chapter?
I'm not trying to be difficult, although I'm usually good at that. I just want the TASO powers that be to remember there are other chapters in the state and many members qualifies to do the RO, Tech and Comms jobs, because they do this on Saturdays. We need to utilize them for these games, not just a small set of people.
I am guessing they went with those who were already known to have experience and used them out of convenience. Perhaps in future seasons they will share the work. Now with the chain crews they utilize different chapters for each day.
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I am guessing they went with those who were already known to have experience and used them out of convenience. Perhaps in future seasons they will share the work. Now with the chain crews they utilize different chapters for each day.
Maybe TASO should have sent out a message to all members asking for their experience in the IR booth? That sure would have been nice.
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Are they the same for today as yesterday? I thought they were using a different one per game....
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Are they the same for today as yesterday? I thought they were using a different one per game....
I have no idea, but I do know TASO did not reach out to its membership, as they absolutely should have, to find out who has experience.
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For the record, the UIL, and not TASO contracted with the Replay Officials. TASO had no say in selecting them. The sideline assistants are experienced communicators. Everything in the Replay Booth was done by the UIL.
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Are they the same for today as yesterday? I thought they were using a different one per game....
Same three guys each of the four nights. They rotate games throughout the night.
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Same three guys each of the four nights. They rotate games throughout the night.
Thanks.
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Thanks.
Two are CFO-West RO and one is AAC RO. They rotate between RO, Asst RO and Communicator. There were no straight “communicators.” All we’re experienced ROs
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Great, now time for TASO to step up for its membership and remind UIL that we have experienced members that need to be working these games. I can't see anyone in TASO leadership disagreeing with this.
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Great, now time for TASO to step up for its membership and remind UIL that we have experienced members that need to be working these games. I can't see anyone in TASO leadership disagreeing with this.
I think they wanted experienced replay officials and a known commodity.
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I think they wanted experienced replay officials and a known commodity.
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That’s exactly my point! We HAVE experienced RO’s, Techs and Comms within TASO that are already members, and not one word from TASO inquiring about who has that experience. Now we are told UIL handled this. Why? Do we not provide officials? TASO is there for one major reason, to advocate for its membership. That’s mission number 1. Come on guys, let’s get that done.
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The gentlemen are active members of FWFO Chapter and are always involved with rookie training, rules interpretations/changes, ect. and are very deserving of inaugural IR.
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I have to say, the IR this week has been good in my opinion, and the ability for Fox to Sync up the looks from multiple angles... I think it has been a good job (although they are taking a little too long on this one... Runner stepping out 7:07, HP V SC).
I have been pleased with the implementation.
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That begs the next question, why only use those from the FW chapter?
I'm not trying to be difficult, although I'm usually good at that. I just want the TASO powers that be to remember there are other chapters in the state and many members qualifies to do the RO, Tech and Comms jobs, because they do this on Saturdays. We need to utilize them for these games, not just a small set of people.
TASO doesnt realizes there are other chapters besides FW and HOU? I've not seen much evidence of that in the last number of years
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Before this gets all spun out of control ....IR is totally UIL production. They have their own guy who is a college replay official who coordinated this and is using mainly Big XII guys to help. Just as TASO has no say in who works as the on field officiating crew, TASO has no say on the IR component
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I thought the UIL was staying out of the officiating business? I would take that to include replay. They could have turned this over to TASO. :sTiR:
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Why should TASO assign the replay officials? Shouldn’t coaches get a say in that too? :sTiR: :sTiR: :sTiR: :sTiR:
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I have to say, the IR this week has been good in my opinion, and the ability for Fox to Sync up the looks from multiple angles... I think it has been a good job (although they are taking a little too long on this one... Runner stepping out 7:07, HP V SC).
I have been pleased with the implementation.
I’ve been mostly pleased, except for the length of the stoppages. They seem to take way too long, even on obvious replays.
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I’ve been mostly pleased, except for the length of the stoppages. They seem to take way too long, even on obvious replays.
Most are taking so long because Rs cannot read back what RO tells them to say over the field mic. The onside kick in the first 6-man game was settled in the first 15 seconds of the replay. The remaining 2+minutes was on the R. Somewhat understandable as it’s all new
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The gentlemen are active members of FWFO Chapter and are always involved with rookie training, rules interpretations/changes, ect. and are very deserving of inaugural IR.
Why is FW the only deserving chapter to work these? Simple question.
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Before this gets all spun out of control ....IR is totally UIL production. They have their own guy who is a college replay official who coordinated this and is using mainly Big XII guys to help. Just as TASO has no say in who works as the on field officiating crew, TASO has no say on the IR component
Unacceptable answer. Completely unacceptable. Does TASO provide officials for UIL games, or not? Is the RO a part of the officiating crew, or not? TASO, get with it guys, take control of this or get someone else in there that will.
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I thought the UIL was staying out of the officiating business? I would take that to include replay. They could have turned this over to TASO. :sTiR:
Exactly my point.
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It’s the first year of replay and has been handled well, minus the R’s struggling with explanations, the games are being held in Dallas they got local guys that have the experience, I don’t see a problem with this
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Similar question, but why not use a college like chain set up for these as well? 2 auxiliary side guys and a dedicated clip.
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It’s the first year of replay and has been handled well, minus the R’s struggling with explanations, the games are being held in Dallas they got local guys that have the experience, I don’t see a problem with this
Then why not have all the games officiated on the field by Dallas and FW? Do you see a problem with that scenario?
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deadhorse: deadhorse: deadhorse:
Final thoughts on this subject, then moving on. TASO is an organization that exists for its members. Their primary purpose is to advocator for its membership. Training, recruiting, retention, those are all important, but none are as important as speaking up for its membership when necessary, such as when the UIL attempted to take over all officiating a few years back. This is the first year of utilizing IR at the state championships and allegedly the UIL had control over this, which is quite baffling I might add. The people in the IR booth are part of the officiating crew, there’s no argument there. Being such, TASO needs to do its due diligence and let the UIL know they will find and assign the RO, Tech and Communicator for those games from this point forward. Just because the games will be played in Jerry World for the foreseeable future does not mean only those who are close to this area will be given the opportunity to be involved in the championship games. Yes, the football crews come from all over the state, just as the IR crews should. TASO needs to reach out to its membership to find those who have experience in these positions, and utilize them. If TASO leadership thinks differently, then that would be a huge disappointment. When all of the BS was going down a few years ago with the UIL wanting to take over officiating, one question kept coming up. What do members get for their dues. Here’s the perfect example of what TASO SHOULD be doing for its members. Come on guys, get it done.
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IR was the UIL's idea. They paid for it. They have given themselves multiple kudos for implementing it and the number of calls on the field that were reversed.
One must keep in mind the ego of the Manor Road folks.
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Then why not have all the games officiated on the field by Dallas and FW? Do you see a problem with that scenario?
I'm good with it eAt& :bOW pHiNzuP :angel:
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I’ve been mostly pleased, except for the length of the stoppages. They seem to take way too long, even on obvious replays.
:thumbup
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I mean really we could get a 1st grader to be a technician or support staff so really they just need to make sure they get some good replay officials in there which it appears the UIL did a great job in doing so
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Why should TASO assign the replay officials? Shouldn’t coaches get a say in that too? :sTiR: :sTiR: :sTiR: :sTiR:
pHiNzuP
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I've seen it mentioned in prior posts that only only Ft. Worth Chapter members were used as Replay Officials for the UIL Championship games. Is that correct or just speculation?
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I mean really we could get a 1st grader to be a technician or support staff so really they just need to make sure they get some good replay officials in there which it appears the UIL did a great job in doing so
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No just being factual, I have seen random people fill in those positions before when the others noshowed ^good
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Does TASO have and/or supply RO throughout the year? Why put someone in position to fail when there are highly qualified D1 replay officials readily available who do this all year? Seems like by adding replay it’s also adding more possibilities for people to be Butt hurt and jealous of others who are working.
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Does TASO have and/or supply RO throughout the year? Why put someone in position to fail when there are highly qualified D1 replay officials readily available who do this all year? Seems like by adding replay it’s also adding more possibilities for people to be Butt hurt and jealous of others who are working.
The point was the ExSec know who in their chapter are the qualified D1 replay officials and they should have been the ones assigning, not UIL.
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No just being factual, I have seen random people fill in those positions before when the others noshowed ^good
tR:oLl and clueless.
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Does TASO have and/or supply RO throughout the year? Why put someone in position to fail when there are highly qualified D1 replay officials readily available who do this all year? Seems like by adding replay it’s also adding more possibilities for people to be Butt hurt and jealous of others who are working.
TASO, no, but there are quite a few TASO members who have been doing these jobs at the D1 level for quite a while. I've been working in a D1 IR booth for 8 years.
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TASO, no, but there are quite a few TASO members who have been doing these jobs at the D1 level for quite a while. I've been working in a D1 IR booth for 8 years.
Totally a bitter technician, enjoy the D1 booth don’t be so bitter about not working a high school game
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TASO, no, but there are quite a few TASO members who have been doing these jobs at the D1 level for quite a while. I've been working in a D1 IR booth for 8 years.
Lol “working in a D1 booth” little bit of a difference between a tech and RO
The guy plugging in things is now qualified to work a RO position bc “I’ve been doing it for 8 years.” Sounds like those old guys working the chains on Saturdays.