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Football Officiating => NCAA Discussion => Topic started by: JDM on April 01, 2020, 06:37:42 PM

Title: Scrimmage Kick Scenario
Post by: JDM on April 01, 2020, 06:37:42 PM
A 4/17 A-13. A4’s punt is blocked and hits on the A-16. The ball takes a backwards bounce and is rolling on the A-8 when B96 bats the ball into A’s end zone. A49 recovers in the end zone and advances to the A-38 where he is downed.

Ruling?
Title: Re: Scrimmage Kick Scenario
Post by: Legacy Zebra on April 01, 2020, 06:57:26 PM
When the ball touches the ground at the A-16 it has crossed the neutral zone even though it then ricochets back behind the line of scrimmage. The batting of a loose ball not in flight adds new impetus, so B is now responsible for the ball being behind A's goal line. However, the status of the ball is still a kick that has crossed the neutral zone, so when A49 recovers the loose ball it is dead there. Because the ball is dead in A's end zone and B is responsible for it being there, the result of the play is a touchback. The foul is by the team not in possession during a scrimmage kick play that does not qualify for PSK, so it will be enforced at the basic spot which is the previous spot. So A's options are 4/7 @ A-23 or 1/10 at the A-20. Either way the clock starts on the snap because of the scrimmage kick as well as the touchack.
Title: Re: Scrimmage Kick Scenario
Post by: ElvisLives on April 01, 2020, 09:12:29 PM
And get video.
Title: Re: Scrimmage Kick Scenario
Post by: JDM on April 02, 2020, 01:34:05 PM
When the ball touches the ground at the A-16 it has crossed the neutral zone even though it then ricochets back behind the line of scrimmage. The batting of a loose ball not in flight adds new impetus, so B is now responsible for the ball being behind A's goal line. However, the status of the ball is still a kick that has crossed the neutral zone, so when A49 recovers the loose ball it is dead there. Because the ball is dead in A's end zone and B is responsible for it being there, the result of the play is a touchback. The foul is by the team not in possession during a scrimmage kick play that does not qualify for PSK, so it will be enforced at the basic spot which is the previous spot. So A's options are 4/7 @ A-23 or 1/10 at the A-20. Either way the clock starts on the snap because of the scrimmage kick as well as the touchack.

Spot on. I discovered Rom Gilbert's 2017 Mini Missive #11 has this same play.