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Football Officiating => Texas Topics => Topic started by: dammitbobby on November 06, 2020, 10:09:27 AM
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Don’t have my rule book with me waiting on a doc appt and thinking about this.
Free kick by Team A. Ball goes 8 yards where it is touched illegally by K65, ball is then touched by R32, who can’t gain possession, and ultimately recovered by K43. During the kick, after the illegal touching, R76 holds K32. Ruling?
I know fouls can offset, but can a violation offset a foul?
Also, mechanics question: you would beanbag the illegal touching, would you also beanbag the touch by R32?
Free kick by Team A. Ball goes 8 yards where it is touched illegally and recovered by K65. R68 crossed his restraining line and forcibly blocked K87. Ruling?
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In your first scenario, fouls don’t offset violations, the violation is canceled when a live ball foul is accepted. So if Team A (not K) accepts the holding foul, the illegal touching goes away and you would entice the holding from the previous spot because it is a foul by the team not in possession and the basic spot on a free kick play is the previous spot. Otherwise, if they decline the holding, Team B (not R) will take the illegal touching and get the ball.
As to mechanics, think about why we use bean bags. We use them to Mark spots we may need. So we always bean bat illegal touching, but we never need to bean bag touches by Team B because that spot doesn’t matter. We need to know if they touched the ball, but where that touch occurred is irrelevant.
In your second scenario, Team B is always eligible to block on a free kick. So all you have is illegal touching and it will be Team B’s ball.
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In your first scenario, fouls don’t offset violations, the violation is canceled when a live ball foul is accepted. So if Team A (not K) accepts the holding foul, the illegal touching goes away and you would entice the holding from the previous spot because it is a foul by the team not in possession and the basic spot on a free kick play is the previous spot. Otherwise, if they decline the holding, Team B (not R) will take the illegal touching and get the ball.
Don’t ya just love autofill / auto-correct? “C’mon. You can do it. Just a few more yards. When you get there, I’ll have a treat for ya.” 😄