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Title: Tulsa/ Miss State Debacle
Post by: Curious on January 03, 2021, 11:31:04 AM
Has anyone heard what "punishment" has/will be meated out to these two teams?
Title: Re: Tulsa/ Miss State Debacle
Post by: ElvisLives on January 03, 2021, 12:56:04 PM
Has anyone heard what "punishment" has/will be meated out to these two teams?

Meated?  :)  What? Are you gonna throw steaks at 'em?

That would be "meted" (as in "distributed”). ;)
Title: Re: Tulsa/ Miss State Debacle
Post by: CalhounLJ on January 03, 2021, 07:39:34 PM
States coach severely admonished his players. Told them it was dumb and don’t do it again. 
Title: Re: Tulsa/ Miss State Debacle
Post by: HLinNC on January 03, 2021, 08:17:56 PM
AAC commissioner has said there will be a review.  I'm sure the SEC will do likewise.
Title: Re: Tulsa/ Miss State Debacle
Post by: Curious on January 04, 2021, 11:37:42 AM
Meated?  :)  What? Are you gonna throw steaks at 'em?

That would be "meted" (as in "distributed”). ;)

Ooops! But steaks would be better than the punches/karate kicks that were "thrown"

States coach severely admonished his players. Told them it was dumb and don’t do it again. 

"don't do it again"????? :!# It didn't sound like he was too concerned during the post-game interview... hEaDbAnG

AAC commissioner has said there will be a review.  I'm sure the SEC will do likewise.

A "review"?   cRaZy pi1eOn
Anything short of suspension from post-season play would be a travesty and seemingly condone such behavior!!



Title: Re: Tulsa/ Miss State Debacle
Post by: Etref on January 04, 2021, 11:55:33 AM
States coach severely admonished his players. Told them it was dumb and don’t do it again. 

Wow, there’s discipline
Title: Re: Tulsa/ Miss State Debacle
Post by: HLinNC on January 04, 2021, 04:28:24 PM
There's that whole due diligence and due process thing. 

Ready, fire, aim may seem like really proactive decision making but as Don Henley sang "lawyers clean up all details".

Where's the fire?  They've got til August, September even.
Title: Re: Tulsa/ Miss State Debacle
Post by: clearwall on January 05, 2021, 10:04:39 AM
Did anyone see the Jomboy recap of this fight? It was pretty funny.
Title: Re: Tulsa/ Miss State Debacle
Post by: dammitbobby on January 05, 2021, 10:10:51 AM
I anxiously look forward to every Jomboy video LOL.  That dude is amazing
Title: Re: Tulsa/ Miss State Debacle
Post by: GA Umpire on January 05, 2021, 04:01:18 PM
Did anyone see the Jomboy recap of this fight? It was pretty funny.

Video?
Title: Re: Tulsa/ Miss State Debacle
Post by: dammitbobby on January 05, 2021, 04:39:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYhCtnCO2UA

also worth watching:  Player throws opponents shoe 20 yards downfield, a breakdown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHIzVVXdkzY
Title: Re: Tulsa/ Miss State Debacle
Post by: dammitbobby on January 05, 2021, 04:44:57 PM
honorable mention
Virginia Tech loses to Liberty in crazy, heartbreaking fashion, a breakdown:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IptxOKteIzU

Liberty Almost Blows Bowl Game in the Dumbest Way, a breakdown:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbtze1c910Y
Title: Re: Tulsa/ Miss State Debacle
Post by: clearwall on January 06, 2021, 08:46:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYhCtnCO2UA

also worth watching:  Player throws opponents shoe 20 yards downfield, a breakdown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHIzVVXdkzY

That's it. "This is pregame-they separated into shirts vs skins and had a flex-off."  LOL LOL LOL
Title: Re: Tulsa/ Miss State Debacle
Post by: JasonTX on January 06, 2021, 11:09:08 AM
That's it. "This is pregame-they separated into shirts vs skins and had a flex-off."  LOL LOL LOL

I'm impressed that they were putting their helmets on.  Usually they take them.  I never understood why players remove helmets to fight.
Title: Re: Tulsa/ Miss State Debacle
Post by: HLinNC on February 02, 2021, 10:15:05 AM
https://www.athleticbusiness.com/sportsmanship/tulsa-players-disciplined-after-bowl-brawl.html
Title: Re: Tulsa/ Miss State Debacle
Post by: CalhounLJ on February 02, 2021, 10:42:12 AM
MSU athletic department:
*crickets*

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Title: Re: Tulsa/ Miss State Debacle
Post by: AlUpstateNY on February 02, 2021, 11:49:59 AM
MSU athletic department:
*crickets*

Some things are UNCHANGEABLE, among which is the advice, "Stupid is, as stupid does".  It's been confirmed endless times, IGNORING (allowing, excusing, permitting and at worst encouraging STUPID) behavior will ONLY generate MORE of it.  Football today, at the NFL and NCAA, levels are full of preening, stupid "self expression" and self gratification, at an alarming pace.  Today, there is more celebratory "everyone look at me" nonsense than at a wedding party, of a Hip-Hop concert.   

Where you might expect to see more childish behavior is at the NFHS level where it is STILL prohibited, prevented and admonished, but rejection is fading as the constant examples displayed in EVERY game at the higher (supposedly MORE mature) levels multiplies, weekly. "Football" is still a game epitomizing "teamwork", where success is measured by the ability to work together, and depend, on each other's assistance to advance a common objective.

Trash talking, at the upper levels has become an EVERY play occurrence.  It's childish, counterproductive to the notion of sportsmanship and gradually DECAYING the very fabric of our sport.  It serves no POSITIVE PURPOSE and is a constant threat to escalate into what happened after the game under discussion.

It is something WE can have direct influence over, if we choose to.  I can assure you, if YOU actually mean it, putting YOUR face, in the face of an offender and telling him privately, "Keep your comments to yourself, or I'll SIT YOUR BUTT DOWN", or words to that effect, can be an effective means of avoiding repeat behavior, as long as you're consistent with such behavior by both teams, and BACK UP your threats where necessary.

Also not a bad idea, to include a reference during your pre-game discussion with each HC,  YOU are not going to tolerate Trash Talking, or excessive displays by either team.