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Title: Free Kick violation clarification
Post by: dammitbobby on October 01, 2021, 11:16:52 AM
Had a discussion come up yesterday that we had differing opinions on.

Free kick, K commits a touching violation prior to R recovering the kick.  R advances to the K25, where he fumbles, and K recovers and returns the ball for a TD.  No fouls on the play.  Result/Ruling?

I have it as R's ball at the spot of illegal touching.  From my understanding, while a kick is  kick is a kick, the violation does not go away, even after the kick ends, and a new run begins, and also does not go away after any number of COPs.  Because of the illegal touching, K can never score on the down (well technically they could, but R would always take the ball at the spot of touching, thus negating the down.) Assuming no fouls, R will always have a choice of taking the natural result of the play, or at the spot of illegal touching. 

The differing opinion was that the illegal touching violation goes away, after the COP. I don't believe that is correct, but I don't have my book handy to look it up.
Title: Re: Free Kick violation clarification
Post by: JasonTX on October 01, 2021, 11:38:25 AM
Rule 6-1-3-b and c covers this. Have your friend read that and then have him show you where it says TD takes away the privilege.  He won't find it.  An accepted penalty by either team or if there are offsetting fouls are the only things that will take away the privilege.

To nit-pick.  Since we use NCAA rules please stick to A and B designations and not K and R. 
Title: Re: Free Kick violation clarification
Post by: dammitbobby on October 01, 2021, 02:57:26 PM
Thanks - will remember to do so in the future.
Title: Re: Free Kick violation clarification
Post by: clearwall on October 05, 2021, 03:03:02 PM
Also, if you haven't yet, check out the Rule 11 podcast (i think the episode number is ) ep 20. Matt Mills does an INCREDIBLE job explaining this.