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Football Officiating => Texas Topics => Topic started by: dammitbobby on December 15, 2021, 02:03:43 PM
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Offense is in victory formation with 0:02 seconds left. As they kneel, B4 comes crashing into the QB, flags fly, zeroes on the clock.
Foul is announced as a dead ball UNS, penalty is declined, game is over.
My question is, if it’s after the play and time has expired, can we still have a foul?
My understanding is that jurisdiction ends when the last play is complete with no time left. That said, I understand why it was thrown and I would have probably done the same, just wanted clarification on it, since there’s no possible enforcement since it was dead ball.
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Our jurisdiction doesn’t end until the referee declares that the game is over. No, no place to enforce the distance penalty, but a flagrant DB personal foul requires a DQ, which could affect the player’s eligibility for the next game, or other consequences.
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Got it, thanks!
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B4 is disqualified for the dead ball personal foul for unnecessary roughness. The yardage part of the penalty is declined, but nothing allows the disqualification to be declined. B4 will be suspended for his team's next regularly scheduled contest, pending a hearing for supplementary discipline.
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B4 is disqualified for the dead ball personal foul for unnecessary roughness. The yardage part of the penalty is declined, but nothing allows the disqualification to be declined. B4 will be suspended for his team's next regularly scheduled contest, pending a hearing for supplementary discipline.
ABSOLUTELY, some people learn slower than others, but they still need to learn.
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NFHS 1-1-8 : The game officials retain clerical authority over the game through the completion of any reports, including those imposing disqualifications.....
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B4 is disqualified for the dead ball personal foul for unnecessary roughness. The yardage part of the penalty is declined, but nothing allows the disqualification to be declined. B4 will be suspended for his team's next regularly scheduled contest, pending a hearing for supplementary discipline.
If there was any clock time remaining, B4 would be DQ'd for the remainder of the game. Beyond that, we don't get involved, and shouldn't even discuss what happens to a player outside of the actual game we are working. That is out of our hands. And, if the player should get some disciplinary action, again, not our concern, or jurisdiction. We have heard of examples of players that have supposedly been DQ'd for a subsequent game(s), but, appears at the next game, and the opposing coach notifies the crew that said player is not supposed to play in this game. NOT OUR PROBLEM. He needs to take that up with his opponent or the UIL. Don't get caught up in that. Just politely tell the coach that this is something that is NOT within our jurisdiction, wish him good luck, and move on.
Even with a targeting foul in the second half, all we get involved with is making sure he doesn't play in the rest of this game. That's it. Yes, for an NCAA game, a targeting foul in the second half, by rule, means that the player is DQ'd for the first half of the next game. But NOT FOR UIL games. By UIL exception, the player is DQ'd for the rest of the game, that's it, and that's all we care about. Whether he plays next week, or not, is not our slightest concern, or jurisdiction.
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Just to clarify what Elvis is saying, for UIL he is referencing "Flagrant" Targeting fouls.
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So does a targeting ejection carry over to the NEXT season??
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Not by rule, that's up to conference/UIL/administrators.