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Football Officiating => NCAA Discussion => Topic started by: ElvisLives on March 30, 2023, 09:31:57 AM
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1/10, A-30 (with ball in center of field). Time/score irrelevant. A12 hands the ball to back A44 at the A-28. A44 advances and is tackled/downed inbounds, very near the pressbox sideline, and the ball becomes dead at the 50. During A44's run, A77 blocked B55 below the waist at the A-45, with the actual spot of the foul being approximately 2 yards inbounds. After discussion between the U and the R, the U proceeds to the actual spot of the foul, steps off the 15-yard penalty to the A-30 (still 2 yards inbounds), then, according to rule 7-1-1-c, moves to the hash mark nearest the pressbox sideline and places the ball at the hashmark, on the A-30. The R makes his announcement, and declares the ball ready for play, and re-starts the game clock (1/10, A-30, pressbox hash).
That's how it is done, technically. Anybody ever actually do it that way? Nah. We just get the replacement ball to the U at the hash mark in line with the actual spot of the foul, and let him go from there. Just wanted to point out another technicality (because you know I like those). But, 7-1-1-c is necessary, to not ever have the ball snapped outside the hash marks. There was a time, I believe, when there were no hash marks, and penalties from the spot of the foul could leave the ball near the sideline. So, they put in hash marks ("inbounds lines" as they were originally known), and added 7-1-1-c to keep the ball from being snapped in a side zone.
I recall, in my earliest days, yes, we really would step off the penalty from the actual spot of the foul, then hustle in to the 'inbounds line' and spot the ball. We wore knickers, solid black stockings with white crew socks (then striped baseball stirrup stockings over white 'sanitary' under-stockings), and 1" stripes, and had red/white foul markers. Bean bag? What the heck is that?
Now, I'm all modern, and still workin'. What else am I gonna do? No good at gardening.
Well, best get back to work. Got some new elementary schools to make sure the contractor builds right. See Non-Officiating Topics for some related comments.
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We marked a penalty from the sideline spot once, simply because it was the chain side and after enforcement would be fairly close the the first down marker. Just wanted to avoid any discussion with the coach.
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We marked a penalty from the sideline spot once, simply because it was the chain side and after enforcement would be fairly close the the first down marker. Just wanted to avoid any discussion with the coach.
If you think you will have a close call re first down after the enforcement shouldn't you measure first to see if the ball is less than 5/10 yards from the LTG?
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If you think you will have a close call re first down after the enforcement shouldn't you measure first to see if the ball is less than 5/10 yards from the LTG?
I wouldn't, simply from an optics perspective - the entire stadium would be wondering why we were measuring when so far behind the LTG, and then they'd be wondering what we measured with - the vast majority don't know what a clip is, and I am pretty distrustful of chain crews who don't do that job often and don't use the precision they should.
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I like bringing it into the hash first, then marching. Looks weird when you're doing it at the HL side and you're both marching it off basically side by side. Plus it's easier to see which yardline you're starting from, so there's no ambiguity with your H or L.
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If you think you will have a close call re first down after the enforcement shouldn't you measure first to see if the ball is less than 5/10 yards from the LTG?
The tape on the 5 yard chain link can help on close ones with the HL discreetly pointing in the direction of the line-to-gain or the trail post.
I was thimking of you, Kalle, when it was announced yesterday that Maine had set a new world record for the largest diameter of an ice carousel (freeing an ice circle on a lake that does at least rotation). The previous record was held by some lake in Finland :). I guess we Mainers can add another 'sport' to our Winter season tR:oLl
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I was thimking of you, Kalle, when it was announced yesterday that Maine had set a new world record for the largest diameter of an ice carousel (freeing an ice circle on a lake that does at least rotation). The previous record was held by some lake in Finland :). I guess we Mainers can add another 'sport' to our Winter season tR:oLl
This seems to be an active 'sport' as Lake Lappajärvi took the record at 516 meters (1,692 ft 11 in) this February :) We do still hold the records in the fastest ice carousel and the thickest ice carousel categories, though. We will probably see some new records next winter...
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This seems to be an active 'sport' as Lake Lappajärvi took the record at 516 meters (1,692 ft 11 in) this February :) We do still hold the records in the fastest ice carousel and the thickest ice carousel categories, though. We will probably see some new records next winter...
All I have to say to that is, "I'm sorry." Y'all are tougher than me, that's for certain.
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This seems to be an active 'sport' as Lake Lappajärvi took the record at 516 meters (1,692 ft 11 in) this February :) We do still hold the records in the fastest ice carousel and the thickest ice carousel categories, though. We will probably see some new records next winter...
Global warming may play havoc with this 'sport' :P . But for the time being it has bumped crushing a beer can on one's forehead out of first place in Maine yEs:.