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Title: Question for the long-termers: penalty signal from 1969
Post by: BrendanP on September 06, 2023, 12:40:09 AM: Saw a penalty signal I couldn’t find anywhere on the internet in some old footage from an NCAA game from 1969.

4th and 7 from the A 38. A punts. B returns to the A40 and a flag is thrown in the trailing action about 5-10 yards behind where the play ends. Referee makes what looks like today’s fair catch signal against team B, waving his arm out to the side. Penalty is declined, first down B. Does anyone know what that meant?
Title: Re: Question for the long-termers: penalty signal from 1969
Post by: bossman72 on September 06, 2023, 09:52:59 AM: I think that used to be unnecessary roughness? That's a guess. I think the CFL still uses that signal, but probably less exaggerated today.
Title: Re: Question for the long-termers: penalty signal from 1969
Post by: texasredleg on September 06, 2023, 10:05:08 AM: Looks like it used to be "Personal Foul"? Old signals card at this url:

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/135389532522103998/ (https://www.pinterest.com/pin/135389532522103998/)
Title: Re: Question for the long-termers: penalty signal from 1969
Post by: bama_stripes on September 07, 2023, 06:03:54 AM: Yep, that’s the old signal for PF.
Title: Re: Question for the long-termers: penalty signal from 1969
Post by: Ralph Damren on September 12, 2023, 01:06:54 PM: When I started, PF was waving one outstretched arm up and down. USC was waving both outstretched arms up and down ,sorta' like you were trying to fly. If a team had used all their TO's, you would signify by pretending to pull a steam whistle three times.....ARH, BUT THOSE WERE THE DAYS tR:oLl
Title: Re: Question for the long-termers: penalty signal from 1969
Post by: bossman72 on September 12, 2023, 03:49:30 PM: Quote from: Ralph Damren on September 12, 2023, 01:06:54 PM
If a team had used all their TO's, you would signify by pretending to pull a steam whistle three times.....ARH, BUT THOSE WERE THE DAYS tR:oLl

Some guys still do that today! (In high school) They even blow the whistle with it too.
Title: Re: Question for the long-termers: penalty signal from 1969
Post by: KWH on November 03, 2023, 05:06:29 PM: When I started (in Texas) there was a Foul called "Crawling"
Title: Re: Question for the long-termers: penalty signal from 1969
Post by: JasonTX on November 03, 2023, 10:52:38 PM: Quote from: KWH on November 03, 2023, 05:06:29 PM
When I started (in Texas) there was a Foul called "Crawling"

Please explain.
Title: Re: Question for the long-termers: penalty signal from 1969
Post by: Ralph Damren on November 04, 2023, 05:42:55 AM: Quote from: KWH on November 03, 2023, 05:06:29 PM
When I started (in Texas) there was a Foul called "Crawling"
...and I believe it was signal #44, labled: "Pushing, crawling, helping the runner and interlocking interfernce". ..All 15 yarders. SOOO MUCH FUN !!!
Title: Re: Question for the long-termers: penalty signal from 1969
Post by: peterparsons on November 04, 2023, 06:01:58 AM: According to my fountain of all knowledge of such things (i.e. "Anatomy of a Game"), Crawling was an illegal dead ball advance rule introduced in 1910 and removed from the book in 1991.
Title: Re: Question for the long-termers: penalty signal from 1969
Post by: Ralph Damren on November 04, 2023, 06:54:17 AM: Pub crawling does still occur as one tries to sample beverages from nearby bars. Current penalty : hangover, confusion, where did I leave my Red Sox cap?==if you're lucky :!#...DWI if you're not. pi1eOn :puke: