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Football Officiating => Texas Topics => Topic started by: Clear Lake ref on September 10, 2023, 05:17:19 PM

Title: Foul scenario
Post by: Clear Lake ref on September 10, 2023, 05:17:19 PM
Last play of 2Q. Time expires during play.

A back comes back around and during reversal a BSB occurs.

After running back goes out of bounds there is a late hit.

What options officially exist?
Title: Re: Foul scenario
Post by: TxSkyBolt on September 10, 2023, 08:25:43 PM
Defense could accept the penalty and have both fouls enforced but they’d have to allow team A to have an untimed down. Reality, defense would decline the BSB and DB foul would be enforced in n the second half free kick.
Title: Re: Foul scenario
Post by: Clear Lake ref on September 10, 2023, 08:42:03 PM
We gave them both options. They did decline.

Just wanted to make sure I was on point as bad never even thought about that situation.
Title: Re: Foul scenario
Post by: TxSkyBolt on September 14, 2023, 09:16:44 AM
Since there would never be a case where a coach would give his opponents another play before half, just present enforce the obvious. I’d consider this an auto decline just like DOF with a team A gain in the play of 6 yards.
Title: Re: Foul scenario
Post by: Clear Lake ref on September 14, 2023, 10:04:57 AM
They were at their own 30 or so. He may have considered giving them another chance at needing 70 yards so as to not lose 15 on the kick.

1 and 5 vs 2 and 4 I’m asking every time.
Title: Re: Foul scenario
Post by: TxBJ on September 14, 2023, 10:29:55 AM
Since there would never be a case where a coach would give his opponents another play before half, just present enforce the obvious. I’d consider this an auto decline just like DOF with a team A gain in the play of 6 yards.

I would think most coaches would prefer to accept the penalty and have 1st and 5 over 2nd and 4.  Now, if it was another down and the penalty didn't get a first down but the play did, you might be right.