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Football Officiating => General Discussion => Topic started by: GoodScout on October 20, 2011, 11:15:24 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDhM_-GwwLI
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Seems that this has nothing to do with the fight. I still haven't seen what caused the fight to start.
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Wow, that's crazy. The look on the WH's face when the kid comes running up to him is priceless. Anyone know how many ejections they had?
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We might be able to get a first-hand account of this later.
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With the benches clearing, how were there enough players left to finish the game?
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That kid has better mechanics and uniform than some people I've worked games with.
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You know, when I first saw the guy running towards R, I thought it was the H. - with his pants rolled up.
Too bad NCAA FB does not have the "if you leave the bench you're ejected" rule.
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With the benches clearing, how were there enough players left to finish the game?
Looks like they only tossed two.
Nick Foles threw for 291 yards and hit Juron Criner for three touchdown passes in the first half, helping Arizona overwhelm UCLA 48-12 in Tucson on Thursday night in its first game under interim coach Tim Kish.
With nine days off since coach Mike Stoops was fired Oct. 10, the Wildcats (2-5, 1-4 Pac-12) looked unstoppable, getting surprising lifts from their running game and defense to end a five-game losing streak.
Arizona ran for 254 of its season-high 573 yards, and Taimi Tutogi ran for a pair of TDs as the Wildcats built a 35-point halftime lead.
The Bruins (3-4, 2-2) couldn't withstand the emotion of a team playing under a new coach and may have put theirs, Rick Neuheisel, in jeopardy with a lackluster effort.
One of the nation's best rushing teams, UCLA had 37 yards on 25 carries against a team that was 100th in the nation at 196 yards per game.
Frustration boiled over in the closing seconds of the first half, when a wild brawl spread about 60 yards across the field after a streaker body-painted to look like an official ran onto the field.
Players pushed and shoved, a few wild punches were thrown, and two players were ejected: Arizona defensive back Shaquille Richardson and UCLA receiver Taylor Embree
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/10/20/SP361LKE9R.DTL#ixzz1bQAiRMVg
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Too bad NCAA FB does not have the "if you leave the bench you're ejected" rule.
They do.
9-5-1-c
c. During either half, coaches or substitutes shall not leave their team area to
participate in a fight, nor shall they participate in a fight in their team area.
Evidently both in TX and at the college level, "participate in" is loosely interpreted.
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rolling eyes.
oh well, thugs will be thugs until there is negative consequences.
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Why do TV announcers always make the comment: "And of course, we're not going to show this idiot who ran on the field...?" It doesn't seem like NOT being on TV is stopping people from doing this, so why not? At least it's fun to see players/coaches/officials take the dude out.
Pretty ingenious method by the guy, I agree, I thought he WAS the official. Had to re-watch to see where he came from.
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They do.
9-5-1-c
Evidently both in TX and at the college level, "participate in" is loosely interpreted.
In TX, if you leave the bench, you're gone for the rest of the game. That's why I said, how did they have enough to finish this game? Both benches cleared. I guess they decided not to enforce that since the game could not have continued.
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In TX, if you leave the bench, you're gone for the rest of the game. That's why I said, how did they have enough to finish this game? Both benches cleared. I guess they decided not to enforce that since the game could not have continued.
There were a few high profile altercations like this last year in TX and I don't believe anybody except maybe the two instigators were tossed. I think one of them involved Longview and another team but I'm doing well to remember last week sometimes. ;D
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Using the rule you pointed out, 9-5-1-c, it would seem that if an entire team bench cleared for a fight, the game would have to be suspended. So, I guess not enforcing that rule when the entire team would have to be ejected might be the best approach in certain situations. But, if it were bad enough, I would suspend the game and let the UIL figure it out.
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Using the rule you pointed out, 9-5-1-c, it would seem that if an entire team bench cleared for a fight, the game would have to be suspended. So, I guess not enforcing that rule when the entire team would have to be ejected might be the best approach in certain situations. But, if it were bad enough, I would suspend the game and let the UIL figure it out.
Been there, done that..........................
JV inner city game in Dallas
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I saw a video that showed a group of 6 guys, (3 on ea team, looked like near the L ) who came together in the confusion during the dead ball right after dumb arse ran on the field. They were jawing at one another and then one pushed another and it was on. The L had come in inside of them so could not break them up before it got physical.
This is not unusual (benches cleared and few ejections). It apparently comes down to "participate in a fight". That means more than just coming off the bench onto the field. However, being on the field without permission is an unsportsmanlike conduct and giving one of those to every number you could get would help guarantee they go bye bye if they commit another Uns conduct.
When it gets to that point I guess you just start narrating into your digital recorder as to what you are seeing and numbers of guys who are actually throwing punches. If they are just pushing and shoving or posturing, I guess they get off scot free. I think you could also give everyone who came on the field an Uns Conduct. That way they would have 1 and if they did something else you could toss them
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For those wanting to see the takedown...
http://youtu.be/g325BVLWm8U
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I love that he got perp walked across the width of the field to take him to the tunnel.
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It sure was a good thing the police were there to take him down. Dangerous criminal that he obviously was.
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Nice tackle by the officer, though. Would be real afraid of helmet-to-helmet contact in that situation. :o
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And why is it that only GUYS do this?
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Oh maybe you are just watching the wrong games? ? ?
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Nice tackle by the officer, though. Would be real afraid of helmet-to-helmet contact in that situation. :o
LOL
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Appears PAC-12 was not happy with what happended at the game
WALNUT CREEK, Calif. — The Pac-12 Conference suspended 10 players Friday for their involvment in a fight that occurred during the first half of the UCLA-Arizona football game Thursday night.
Bruins wide receiver Taylor Embree and Arizona cornerback Shaquille Richardson were penalized by game officials for unsportsmanlike conduct and ejected from the contest for fighting with 4 seconds left in the first half. They both will have to sit out an additional game.
UCLA defensive tackle Cassius Marsh was given a two-game ban while receivers Randall Carroll, Shaq Evans, and Ricky Marvray each received a game. Guard Alberto Cid will have to sit for a half.
Arizona nickleback Jourdan Grandon will miss a game while cornerback Lyle Brown and safety Mark Watley each will sit a half.
Read more: http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2011-10-21/pac-12-suspends-10-players-from-ucla-arizona-fight?icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl4%7Csec3_lnk3%7C106442#ixzz1bW4qzWLt
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and the law aint too happy with the streaker...
(CBS) – Jace Lankow, an undergraduate at the University of Arizona could face up to one and half years in jail after being charged with a class six felony for criminal impersonation.
Lankow dressed up as a referee and ran onto the field at Arizona Stadium on Thursday night during a football game featuring the Wildcats and UCLA Bruins.
While he was streaking, a brawl ensued between the two Pac-12 South schools, resulting in 10 players being suspended by the conference.
“The Conference is extremely disappointed in the actions of the student-athletes involved in this incident,” Commissioner Larry Scott said in a statement. “It is unacceptable behavior and violated Conference rules, as well as NCAA fighting rules.
“I have taken these actions today because it is imperative that we hold our student-athletes and coaches to the highest standards of sportsmanship.”
Bruins wide receiver Taylor Embree and Arizona cornerback Shaquille Richardson were penalized by game officials for unsportsmanlike conduct and ejected from the contest for fighting with 4 seconds left in the first half. They both will have to sit out an additional game.
UCLA defensive tackle Cassius Marsh was given a two-game ban while receivers Randall Carroll, Shaq Evans, and Ricky Marvray each received a game. Guard Alberto Cid will have to sit for a half.
Arizona nickleback Jourdan Grandon will miss a game while cornerback Lyle Brown and safety Mark Watley each will sit a half.
The suspensions will occur during each school’s next scheduled game. UCLA plays Saturday, Oct. 29 against California, while Arizona’s next game is at Washington that day.
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Like that'll stick. Ridiculous, what is the DA thinking (smoking).
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I suspect they did an investigation to find out how he made it to the sidelines and likely found he did some lying there. That would be the impersonation, not the ref impersonation part
The Arizona law: 13-2006. Criminal impersonation; classification
A. A person commits criminal impersonation by:
1. Assuming a false identity with the intent to defraud another; or
2. Pretending to be a representative of some person or organization with the intent to defraud; or
3. Pretending to be, or assuming a false identity of, an employee or a representative of some person or organization with the intent to induce another person to provide or allow access to property. This paragraph does not apply to peace officers in the performance of their duties.
B. Criminal impersonation is a class 6 felony.
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I think it would be hard to prove an intent to defraud in 1 & 2. I read that he just manipulated an old sideline pass that he used earlier, so if it had his name on it, doesn't look like #3 works either.
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And I'll wager you Mike a new pair of black officiating pants that he never gets prosecuted for a felony. You a taker?
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Well you have already lost that bet since he was charged with a felony. Whether he will be CONVICTED or not of a felony is another issue. I quit betting on the justice system back when a football has-been got away with a double murder.
(I don't tell you how to fly jets...you don't tell me about the law. ;-) ;D )
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Mike,
How many times have you seen charges changed prior to trial (doubt there will be one either)? I said prosecuted, not charged. There is a difference, no? Come on now, you know you want some of this.
I guess I just don't see the big whoop over this....a kid being a kid...pretty funny if you ask me, although why couldn't it have been a co-ed? :D
Best regards,
Brad
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It was not a kid being a kid. It was a jerk trying to get something, i.e. an invite to be on a TV show ("Wipeout"). He was doing this for financial gain. Subsequent investigation and review of his own comments prove this was a well-planned and deliberate act, definitely not the act of a drunken college student in a moment of weakness.
Furthermore, his actions jeopardized the security personnel who put their own physical well-being in danger trying to apprehend him. Any one of them could have had a heart attack or suffered sprains or broken appendages in the tussle.
Finally, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I submit to you that not adequately punishing this felon for his behavior will only encourage similar anti-social behavior by others who see him get all rewards and no punishment. Our system of morality and our sense of proper behavior and manners DEMAND this perp receive the maximum punishment permitted by statute.
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Jace Lankow, an undergraduate at the University of Arizona could face up to one and half years in jail after being charged with a class six felony for criminal impersonation.
I'm betting he gets 100 hours of community service and a "Hey, JERK -- don't do that again."
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"Criminal impersonation?" Wonder if I could get some of the weaker members of my crew busted for that?
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"Criminal impersonation?" Wonder if I could get some of the weaker members of my crew busted for that?
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LOL LOL LOL tiphat:
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"Criminal impersonation?" Wonder if I could get some of the weaker members of my crew busted for that?
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We have a winner in the "funniest post of the week" contest...and it's only Monday! aWaRd