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Football Officiating => General Discussion => Topic started by: Roscoe on October 29, 2011, 08:30:48 PM
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I really hope NFHS and Georgia adopt the new shirt next year. I really like it.
(http://www.getofficial.com/product_images/h/141/FBS117__68576_zoom.jpg)
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Our association just 'allowed' the black pants to be used as an option in lieu of knickers so I can honestly say that I foresee the 2" shirts within 2 years. Looks much better IMHO.
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To be honest, I'd also like to see high school officiating adopt the position on the shirt. I think it looks very professional
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I agree, looks nicer, but crap, more stuff to buy.
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I agree, looks nicer, but crap, more stuff to buy.
Haha I do agree with the more stuff to buy. I'm glad I don't do this for the money. I just really enjoy looking professional on the field
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NO NO NO NO NO!
There's already enough of a racket going on the officiating supply business without "requiring" a new shirt.
The black pant thing hasn't even worn out yet.
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To be honest, I'd also like to see high school officiating adopt the position on the shirt. I think it looks very professional
I'm gonna take a big wild guess here: you work in an association that uses fixed crews, right?
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I really don't care if we have one inch or two inch stripes, what we need is better material. The polyester shirts are crap.
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There have already been newer, lighter materials used. I know Honig's came out with one 2-3 years ago.
I got one of these: http://www.theofficialschoice.com/footballshirt-shortsleeve-5.aspx
a couple of years ago. Its very lightweight and its marked down to $10!
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I really don't care if we have one inch or two inch stripes, what we need is better material. The polyester shirts are crap.
Do yourself a favor and try out the Ultimate Referee shirt from Ump-Attire. Best shirt I've worn yet.
I would be ok with the 2" stripes but not position placards. I am not on a crew and fill in at a lot of different positions. I've also started white hatting 6-Man varsity games so the last thing I need is a closet full of shirts for each position I might work.
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Do yourself a favor and try out the Ultimate Referee shirt from Ump-Attire. Best shirt I've worn yet.
Thanks I will look into it.
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There have already been newer, lighter materials used. I know Honig's came out with one 2-3 years ago.
I got one of these: http://www.theofficialschoice.com/footballshirt-shortsleeve-5.aspx
a couple of years ago. Its very lightweight and its marked down to $10!
Is it made in China like all the Honig crap?
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Do yourself a favor and try out the Ultimate Referee shirt from Ump-Attire. Best shirt I've worn yet.
I would be ok with the 2" stripes but not position placards. I am not on a crew and fill in at a lot of different positions. I've also started white hatting 6-Man varsity games so the last thing I need is a closet full of shirts for each position I might work.
WELPE, the care instructions say to wash cold and hang dry. Do you then need to iron?
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WELPE, the care instructions say to wash cold and hang dry. Do you then need to iron?
Iron. That will HACK my wife off. ;D
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WELPE, the care instructions say to wash cold and hang dry. Do you then need to iron?
No, I never do. They come out looking just fine. Also, they are made in the USA. FlAg1
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Is it made in China like all the Honig crap?
Taiwan.
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No, I never do. They come out looking just fine. Also, they are made in the USA. FlAg1
+1 :thumbup
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what we need is better material. The polyester shirts are crap.
Let me welcome you to 2006, if not earlier. That was the year I bought some Officials Choice shirts with the lightweight poly material that was open stich (sort of a micro-micro-mesh). I think the next year, Honigs came out with a soft, closed stiched shirt that wasn't bad, but the collar sucked. I had 2 of them and wore them for all varsity games I worked through 2009 (where I wore short sleeve). This was a very lightweight shirt. Last year, I got the Smitty shirt -- even lighter and more comfortable than the Honigs with a fabric that doesn't saturate, dries quickly, and has a nice, silky feel to it. I think the Smittys are the best, but I'm told that Cliff Keen and Gerry Davis make good shirts as well, though I haven't worn either. The CK shirts don't feel as good as the Smittys, but that's my opinion and its all personal choice. The Honigs are at least in the same league.
Bottom line, the shirt materials are top notch and can't get a whole lot better. You will never see a cotton or even a cotton/poly blend -- they used to have those but they faded terribly. Plus, they look horrible, hold moisture, are heavy, and otherwise impractical. Polyester is a generic term by the way and doesn't automatically mean the old double knit fabric of yesteryear. Go shopping!
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I have the ump-attire shirts in both long and short sleeve. They are great, easy to care for and never need to be ironed. Plus they have excellent customer service. I have never had an order messed up when dealing with them. Honigs could only wish to have service as good...
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To be honest, I'd also like to see high school officiating adopt the position on the shirt. I think it looks very professional
The only reason the placards look professional is because that's what the professionals wear. I have a feeling if we wore placards at lower levels but the NFL went with plain shirts people would clamor for plain shirts because "it looks clean and professional." What's the history behind the placards, anyway? Who added them first, and why?
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The NFL originally put the position name on a plate across the shoulders, late 70's maybe?
Don't remember when college added the placards.
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They're called Plackets not Placards
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my bad
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I have zero desire to switch over to 2" stripes. Leave it like it is...high school 1", college 2" and the wide stripe for NFL. As far as positions on our shirts...why?
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They're called Plackets not Placards
Placard is an acceptable synonym. :)
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I have zero desire to switch over to 2" stripes. Leave it like it is...high school 1", college 2" and the wide stripe for NFL. As far as positions on our shirts...why?
I agree. But then, I'm not a shirt manufacturer or salesman. >:D
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Don't get me wrong, I like the look of the two wider stripe shirts.
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I realize things can't always happen on my schedule, but, as a new official, I'd like to get some use out of my recent purchases.
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The NCAA went to the 2" stripes because they wanted to differentiate NCAA officials with others (mainly high school). If HS ever goes to 2" stripes, the NCAA will not be happy. They will then come up with something else that we have to buy.
By the way, the 2" stripe shirts are very comfortable. I think it would be a good idea for the apparel manufacturers to make 1" stripe shirts with the same material that the 2" stripes are made of.
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By the way, the 2" stripe shirts are very comfortable. I think it would be a good idea for the apparel manufacturers to make 1" stripe shirts with the same material that the 2" stripes are made of.
They already do. I own some from Honigs and Ump-Attire. :)
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The NCAA went to the 2" stripes because they wanted to differentiate NCAA officials with others (mainly high school). If HS ever goes to 2" stripes, the NCAA will not be happy. They will then come up with something else that we have to buy.
Can you verify this?
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I heard the same explanation by our chapter pres after some officials were using them in HS games. Dont know that it's "official" but sounds reasonable to me.
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The thing is the NCAA has no control over the 2" stripe design so there's not a whole lot they could really do other than change again.
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The NCAA went to the 2" stripes because they wanted to differentiate NCAA officials with others (mainly high school).
I don't think so. 2" stripes have been around for years -- guys working leagues playing pro rules have worn them and Honigs offered at least a short sleeved shirt for as long as I can remember. I think someone looked at the black pants, compared them with the 2" striped shirt, and said, "hey, I think this will work well."
No other NCAA sport had done anything to differentiate itself from other leagues in terms of officials' gear. There's no evidence this was done in football.
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No other NCAA sport had done anything to differentiate itself from other leagues in terms of officials' gear. There's no evidence this was done in football.
Soccer and basketball have. Basketball, however, went with a shirt design that has been filtering down to the lower levels somewhat over the past few years.
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For the record, I found several places online that are selling the Smitty FBS-117 2in striped shirt without the position placket. For example.
http://www.kellyssports.com/browse.cfm/4,16507.html (http://www.kellyssports.com/browse.cfm/4,16507.html)
http://www.amazon.com/Adams-Smitty-FBS117-Football-Officials/dp/B007HJX26Q (http://www.amazon.com/Adams-Smitty-FBS117-Football-Officials/dp/B007HJX26Q)
http://www.allsportsofficials.com/By_Sport/Football/Football_Shirts/Smitty_s_FBS_117_New_NCAA_2_Stripe_SS_Football_Shirt_p35.html (http://www.allsportsofficials.com/By_Sport/Football/Football_Shirts/Smitty_s_FBS_117_New_NCAA_2_Stripe_SS_Football_Shirt_p35.html)
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No other NCAA sport had done anything to differentiate itself from other leagues in terms of officials' gear. There's no evidence this was done in football.
College officials in basketball wear a shirt with a black panel down the side.
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College officials in some conferences, in men's basketball wear a shirt with a black panel down the side.
FIFY :-)