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Football Officiating => NCAA Discussion => Topic started by: JasonTX on November 19, 2011, 04:36:07 PM

Title: Video Request-TX Tech
Post by: JasonTX on November 19, 2011, 04:36:07 PM
TXMike or someone.  With around 10 mins. left in the 3rd qtr. there was a flag thrown by the U for a false start.  Line judge comes running in and call was changed to defense offside.  I'd like to see that again if someone can post the video.
Title: Re: Video Request-TX Tech
Post by: TXMike on November 19, 2011, 09:33:02 PM
Berry berry strange....

http://youtu.be/BOVJQ3VmRdM (http://youtu.be/BOVJQ3VmRdM)
Title: Re: Video Request-TX Tech
Post by: clearwall on November 19, 2011, 09:39:10 PM
False start. The B player wasnt a) in the neutral zone and b) not close enough to the A player to have drawn him to move.
Title: Video Request-TX Tech
Post by: TxSkyBolt on November 19, 2011, 09:39:55 PM
Same official had a similar call in the Texas earlier this season.


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Title: Re: Video Request-TX Tech
Post by: NVFOA_Ump on November 20, 2011, 06:44:03 AM
I'd agree that this is not offside by B.  The B player who "moves early" does not encroach in the NZ, and the A player who moves is not by rule a threatened player.  Can't the U help out here with some advice if the wing officials think that the B player actually did enter the NZ?

(Corrected - had a late night and my vision is impaired.  8]   ;D)
Title: Re: Video Request-TX Tech
Post by: TXMike on November 20, 2011, 06:48:53 AM
I'd agree that this has to be offside by B.  The B player who "moves early" does not encroach in the NZ, and the A player who moves is not by rule a threatened player.  Can't the U help out here with some advice if the wing officials think that the B player actually did enter the NZ?

Is this a typo or is it just too early up there?  How is it offside by B?
Title: Re: Video Request-TX Tech
Post by: JasonTX on November 20, 2011, 07:15:07 PM
Same official had a similar call in the Texas earlier this season.


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I remember the earlier one as well from that Texas game.  I think it is posted on refstripes as well. 
Title: Re: Video Request-TX Tech
Post by: LittleWhistle on November 20, 2011, 09:38:31 PM
Looks like the DE is more than 4-5 yards outside of the G who reacts.

Title: Re: Video Request-TX Tech
Post by: Grant - AR on November 21, 2011, 09:50:50 AM
I remember the earlier one as well from that Texas game.  I think it is posted on refstripes as well.


I think this is the thread you are referring to:  www.refstripes.com/forum/index.php?topic=8525.0

There is speculation in the first post that the Big12 may have a little different philosophy on this type of play.
Title: Re: Video Request-TX Tech
Post by: Birddog on November 22, 2011, 09:22:02 AM
I think Grant is right, it's a Big 12 philosophy over riding an actual rule.  When the defense moves and offense reacts, stick the defense with offside.  Watch a lot of Big 12 games and this is a common occurrence.