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Football Officiating => NCAA Discussion => Topic started by: El Macman on May 08, 2012, 06:39:45 AM
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K/O, A-35. At the RFP signal, all A players are between the A-30 and A-35. Moments later, A88, positioned near the right numbers, begins running to his left, approximately parallel with the yard lines. As A88 is running, he steps with his left foot completely behind the A-30, his right foot lifting off the ground (i.e., he has neither foot touching the ground on or beyond the A-30). A88 is running at the A-34 when A11 kicks the ball.
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K/O, A-35. At the RFP signal, all A players are between the A-30 and A-35. Moments later, A88, positioned near the right numbers, runs to his left, and steps with both feet behind the A-30. A88 moves to the A-32, near the left numbers and stops. Several seconds later, A11 advances and kicks the ball.
Ruling:
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Not really sure with the new 2012 rule wording that there's anything here but with all of the variations similar to those posted it wouldn't be a surprise if we see some additional AR's and case plays prior to the fall.
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By the letter of the rule these are both fouls. My guess is that most coordinators would not want you to throw on the second play. Summer clinics should clear this up.
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The first play is pretty clear cut, IMO. We flag a receiver who very slightly steps on the sideline before being the first to touch a legal forward pass, so we should flag this too.
In the second one I don't really see any advantage gained and would not flag it, unless specifically instructed by my supervisor.
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I'm wondering if there are any other fouls that are live ball fouls at the snap/kick that Team A can not "fix" prior to snapping/kicking?
For example- an illegal shift can always be avoided by having the team later setting for a second before the snap. A player not inside the 9s can always go in motion or shift and make himself legal.
Here we could have a player step behind the line 10 seconds before the kick and there's no way out of it- yet the flag doesn't come until the kick. Seems strange.
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I'm wondering if there are any other fouls that are live ball fouls at the snap/kick that Team A can not "fix" prior to snapping/kicking?
For example- an illegal shift can always be avoided by having the team later setting for a second before the snap. A player not inside the 9s can always go in motion or shift and make himself legal.
Here we could have a player step behind the line 10 seconds before the kick and there's no way out of it- yet the flag doesn't come until the kick. Seems strange.
I'm wondering if that was really the intent of the rule?
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Here we could have a player step behind the line 10 seconds before the kick and there's no way out of it- yet the flag doesn't come until the kick. Seems strange.
Team A can call a timeout to get out of this. But I don't think it really is the intent of the rule.