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Football Officiating => War Stories => Topic started by: Rulesman on September 06, 2012, 12:04:25 PM
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Fire away!
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I'm the worst official ever according to one Freshman coach. He also informed the R of that game (who is an FBS official) that I should never officiate another game. This was my first game of the season. yEs:
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So, you're just proving it early this year? LOL
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Pretty much. ;)
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Give the coach a break....he probably had a bad day with his unruly social studies class, and just needed to vent.
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Last night on a PAT the holder gets nailed I have a flag on the ground, coach is yelling at me he hit the holder he hit the holder not the kicker. cRaZy
at this point I am thinking Yea,,,, so
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Yesterday in. JV game visiting team scores with 1:15 left in the game to get within 6 points. We discuss onside kick and set up for it. Sure enough they do onside and the home team dives on the ball at the K49. Visiting coach is screaming that they cannot touch the ball until it goes 10 yards. I told him they could and he just stared at me as I walked away.
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Give the coach a break....he probably had a bad day with his unruly social studies class, and just needed to vent.
I guess I should be able to treat him the same way then when I have a bad day. :)
In a youth game yesterday, we had a coach saying he was going to report us to the UIL.
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Friday night.
Quarterback: (Takes shotgun snap, turns to hand off on the draw, sees that his RB fell down)
Slot Receiver: (Takes off on a post route, then turns to block his DB for the run)
DB: (Puts his hands up in the air as though to say, "He's pushing me! Do something!")
Quarterback: (Has nowhere to hand the ball and starts scrambling to try and make something of the play)
Quarterback: (Fails and is sacked)
Defensive coach: "That's OPI! That's OPI! He can't push my guy like that!"
LJ: "There wasn't a pass, coach!"
Coach: "But the quarterback was back to pass! He can't push like that!"
LJ: "Doesn't matter - there has to be a forward pass, across the neutral zone, for interference rules to be in effect."
Coach: "...there has to be a pass for pass interference? Since when???"
LJ: hEaDbAnG
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Coach: "...there has to be a pass for pass interference? Since when???"
LJ: hEaDbAnG
The scary part is that most of these coaches are teaching our children.
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My favorite is still the coach exploding about a horse collar foul. "Coach, the guy who grabbed the collar didn't tackle him. He lost his grip."
"So what?"
"Coach, I can't call a foul for a horse-collar tackle without a tackle."
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My favorite is still the coach exploding about a horse collar foul. "Coach, the guy who grabbed the collar didn't tackle him. He lost his grip."
"So what?"
"Coach, I can't call a foul for a horse-collar tackle without a tackle."
Had this same scenario in my NCAA game last sat....
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Working S last night. A's ball, about B's 30, 4/16. A84 beats B11 off the line in running his pass pattern, and B11 grabs him right across the jersey with both hands and stops him from getting out into his pattern. Flag goes flying (and a beautiful throw, if I do say so myself - hit the line perfectly from about 20 yards downfield). Incomplete pass, I report the foul to the R, we mark off 10 and replay. A's coach asks me on my way back, "that's not a first down?"
"Coach, defensive holding isn't an automatic first down in high school ball."
Fast forward to 1:30 left in the game, same team's on offense, on their own 12 or so, 3/12, down a point with no time outs. A84 beats B11 off the line again, and B11 does the same grab. Flag goes flying again (though not anywhere near as majestic as the first one). Incomplete pass, I report to the R again, we mark off 10 and replay. A's coach asks me on my way back upfield, "are you sure we don't get a first down for holding?"
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Youth game today (I know I know but Disneyland doesn't pay for itself).
I'm working H and the visiting runner breaks for a good run. A defender grabs the back of his shoulder pads and yanks him down. Textbook horse collar. I drop my flag, mark progress and go report.
Coaches are screaming "He got his pads!!!"
Yes exactly, thank you for agreeing with me coaches.
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My second straight week posting on JV coaches ( just lucky I guess). First half home team wins coin toss and chose to receive. Visitors chose to kick from clock. After the toss I went over to visitors sideline and coaches are talking that they will have the clock in the 4th quarter. I was going to talk to them about something else so ignored thier talk.
Moving on to after halftime. I saw the home coach first and said I am sure the visitors will take the ball, which goal do you want to defend, he said he will kick from clock. I went to the visitors and asked if they want the ball. They did and then I told them the home team will kick from the clock. The head coach asked why did they get to choose? I told them that his team had the pick on receiving and they had the goal choice. He said that was wrong, it was picked in the coin toss to start the game. I said that was for the first half and we do it again for the second half. They still thought I was wrong and probably think that today. Yes they lost 36 to 3.
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One of my first games as a white hat a few weeks ago, I was asked part way through a game if a new center could come on the field and do a "few practice snaps with the team", coach was very indignant when I told him no, he can do that on the sideline in his own time. Must have been coaching Baseball in the off-season?
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Had a freshman game this past week where I flagged a home player while on offense for a chop block. A defender was already engaged up high when a back came in and cut him low. Easy call.
The head coach near my sideline indignantly complains "So we're calling that in freshman games now?"
When I tell him the number, he whines "He doesn't even know how to do that!"
And the beat goes on. yEs:
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One I witnessed, youth coaches, in response to my flag when their attempted on-side kick went out of bounds after traveling 11 yards, "But it went 10 yards."
The other one was relayed by a fellow official, freshman game, "They can't use up the entire 25 seconds when they're trying to run out the clock." He (the official) admitted not knowing how to react as it was the first time he had ever heard that complaint in 20+ years of officiating. :!#
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The other one was relayed by a fellow official, freshman game, "They can't use up the entire 25 seconds when they're trying to run out the clock."
Technically, that's correct: if they use up the ENTIRE 25 seconds without snapping the ball, then the result would be a delay of game foul.
But who knows what the coach meant?
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Technically, that's correct: if they use up the ENTIRE 25 seconds without snapping the ball, then the result would be a delay of game foul.
But who knows what the coach meant?
I paraphrased a little bit- the coach was actively arguing that the other team was obligated to snap the ball as soon as they came to the line, that they could not purposefully consume 24.999 seconds of each play clock.
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I paraphrased a little bit- the coach was actively arguing that the other team was obligated to snap the ball as soon as they came to the line, that they could not purposefully consume 24.999 seconds of each play clock.
Now that's funny!
I apologize for busting your chops with the previous post. pray:;
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Now that's funny!
I apologize for busting your chops with the previous post. pray:;
Mr. Annoying Grammar Guy is really making the rounds these days. ;D
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Mr. Annoying Grammar Guy is really making the rounds these days. ;D
Mr. Annoying Mr. Annoying Guy needs to recheck his concept of grammar. :P
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I asked a middle school coach before a game last week if he had any trick plays. "No we keep it straight up."
Second down on offense they run a double reverse pass. ???
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I asked a middle school coach before a game last week if he had any trick plays. "No we keep it straight up."
Second down on offense they run a double reverse pass. ???
Worked U for a varsity game last week. Coach had "nothing unusual."
First play from scrimmage, the guy used an offset line with the centre on one hash, and the other four down linemen stacked on the other hash.
Oh, and the same team also ran a gaurderooski.
hEaDbAnG
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Oh, and the same team also ran a gaurderooski.
Is it legal in Canada?
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Is it legal in Canada?
Yes, with certain provisions and restrictions. They ran the thing legally, but ...
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Called a block in the back last night after an interception where it wasn't even close to a legal block. After telling me how horrible my call was, and that his team made a good play and I'm taking it away from them (even though they kept the ball), he finished up with "and it's not his fault that he's stronger than they are!" ::)
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Wasn't a coach, but I had the easiest USC flag of my 11 year career last night. One of the other fellows on the crew flagged a player last night for a DB PF. As we were enforcing that, his teammate told his teammates "That's all right. The refs are going to do what they're going to do - cheat us." ^flag
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Wasn't a coach, but I had the easiest USC flag of my 11 year career last night. One of the other fellows on the crew flagged a player last night for a DB PF. As we were enforcing that, his teammate told his teammates "That's all right. The refs are going to do what they're going to do - cheat us." ^flag
That IS easy! I might have thrown my flag and then told the kid, "Now go over to your coach and explain why you've added an additional 15 yards."
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I've read similar stories more than once on here but...
NFHS rules: 4th & forever, Team A runner taken down via facemask. Jog team A forward another 15 yards, still short. Now 4th and 8. Coach screaming for automatic 1st down because he "Played college football and knows the rules"
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Yesterday in. JV game visiting team scores with 1:15 left in the game to get within 6 points. We discuss onside kick and set up for it. Sure enough they do onside and the home team dives on the ball at the K49. Visiting coach is screaming that they cannot touch the ball until it goes 10 yards. I told him they could and he just stared at me as I walked away.
So I'm hoping you gave the ball to R on the 49?
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It sounds like R recovered so I also(really really) hope they gave R the ball.
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While I was working Referee last night in a JV game, I had an assistant scream at me to the middle of the field like a petulant child after he thought we missed an illegal snap on a swinging gate (we didn't) and he didn't like my explanation.
"WHY CAN'T YOU JUST ADMIT YOU'RE WRONG?!"
Evidently he hasn't met my wife.
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While I was working Referee last night in a JV game, I had an assistant scream at me to the middle of the field like a petulant child after he thought we missed an illegal snap on a swinging gate (we didn't) and he didn't like my explanation.
"WHY CAN'T YOU JUST ADMIT YOU'RE WRONG?!"
Evidently he hasn't met my wife.
At that point, I'd throw a flag then ask him what the yardage is for an USC.
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At the start of a JV game with home team running only the second play from scrimmage, I have a solid hold on an interior lineman during a pass play. With my flag down, I tell home coach his offensive guard tackled the defender advancing toward the quarterback. The coach yells back at me, "Call it both ways!" I respond, "Coach, you haven't been on defense yet..." Silence. :-X
It seems he got his complaint list out of order as he clearly meant to hold onto that one until at least the second quarter....
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At that point, I'd throw a flag then ask him what the yardage is for an USC.
Let's just say the other team kicked off 15 yards closer to the other team's goal line. :)
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Highest level classification of Texas HS football varsity game Fri. night and 1 assistant coach on Visitors goes nuts every time the home team runs a "bunch formation". They have 4 receivers in a bunch spread out wide to 1 side. 1 is on the line and 3 are off the line. He kept yelling "the receiver is covered up, he's covered up" as the home routinely passed out of the formation. Eventually the H asked him what the heck he was talking about. Coach says "1 or more of the receivers are covered up every time" H: "What do you mean coach, only 1 guy is on the line?" Coach: "I know but the 3 behind him are lined up next to one another so obviously 2 of them are covered up" H: "Uhhh...coach, they are backs , they CAN be covered up"
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One of our rookie officials was working his first ever game early in the season. He throws his first career flag for which the coach did not agree. Coach yells towards the official, "This isn't your first rodeo, why would you make a call like that." Official didn't tell the coach that it was his first. :thumbup
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Assistant at a game gets all his stuff in a wad. I blow a play ready and he within a breath yells at me "This must be a delay of game just how long do they get?" I responded with 25 seconds from the time I blow it ready which was just now. Did you not know that?
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Did you not know that?
Nice Burn
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HC "The player throwing the ball at my guy committed a punch. That is an extension of a punch and should be an ejection!" Seriously heard this about another game.
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HC "The player throwing the ball at my guy committed a punch. That is an extension of a punch and should be an ejection!" Seriously heard this about another game.
"So, coach, when you're waving to me, are you giving me an extension of the finger?"
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"So, coach, when you're waving to me, are you giving me an extension of the finger?"
pHiNzuP
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So I'm hoping you gave the ball to R on the 49?
Yes R got the ball on the 49 and ran the clock out. Sorry for the delay in the responding.
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From over my shoulder "84" Flanker right beside me. I look inside .... Defensive End is #84. Just before the snap the Flanker goes in motion ... at the snap the Offensive tackle hits the Defensive End turns him, then slides off and heads for the Linebacker .... My Flanker plows right into the DE's back .... Flag. Run to my side results in a loss of five yards at my feet and an injured Running Back. Head Coach walks up and asks "Why was that a flag?" "Poor Coaching" "What?" I explain what I saw, then said "watch the film you'll see it just as I described." "Well how is it poor coaching?" "You ride this kid in each practice, get in his head that he must make that block no matter what." "Yeah that's how we teach them." "Do you know what a pick is in basketball?" "Yeah" The Flacker can run up and seeing the numbers on the back, just stop short of the block and simply stand there, the DE will turn into him and all you need is a simple delay so that the DE cannot get an angle on the running back. So no block in the back. As I said, poor coaching." Coach thanks me and then proceeds to chew out the Assistant Coach for teaching the running back to play illegally. "Ya know what we call that ? Poor Coaching ! Ain't that right Ref?"
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I'm glad that worked out OK for you - A lot of coaches would not have responded well to a statement like that! They would have blown up and not listened to your explanation.
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College game and LB complains about a chop block. I told him I didn't see anything but would look for it. Later in the game I see him cut by an o-lineman (legal). After the play he complains about a chop block again. I told him it was only a low block and there was no high block. He looked at me confused so I said a chop block is a high-low combination.
His response: "Yeah, I was high and he hit me low."
One of his teammates turned around and called him an idiot and explained what a chop block is.
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" "Poor Coaching" "What?" I explain what I saw, then said "watch the film you'll see it just as I described
You play with dynamite much?
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From over my shoulder "84" Flanker right beside me. I look inside .... Defensive End is #84. Just before the snap the Flanker goes in motion ... at the snap the Offensive tackle hits the Defensive End turns him, then slides off and heads for the Linebacker .... My Flanker plows right into the DE's back .... Flag. Run to my side results in a loss of five yards at my feet and an injured Running Back. Head Coach walks up and asks "Why was that a flag?" "Poor Coaching" "What?" I explain what I saw, then said "watch the film you'll see it just as I described." "Well how is it poor coaching?" "You ride this kid in each practice, get in his head that he must make that block no matter what." "Yeah that's how we teach them." "Do you know what a pick is in basketball?" "Yeah" The Flacker can run up and seeing the numbers on the back, just stop short of the block and simply stand there, the DE will turn into him and all you need is a simple delay so that the DE cannot get an angle on the running back. So no block in the back. As I said, poor coaching." Coach thanks me and then proceeds to chew out the Assistant Coach for teaching the running back to play illegally. "Ya know what we call that ? Poor Coaching ! Ain't that right Ref?"
9/10 times what you did would not turn out positively. Don't tell the coaches how to do their job if you don't want them telling you how to do yours.
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From over my shoulder "84" Flanker right beside me. I look inside .... Defensive End is #84. Just before the snap the Flanker goes in motion ... at the snap the Offensive tackle hits the Defensive End turns him, then slides off and heads for the Linebacker .... My Flanker plows right into the DE's back .... Flag. Run to my side results in a loss of five yards at my feet and an injured Running Back. Head Coach walks up and asks "Why was that a flag?" "Poor Coaching" "What?" I explain what I saw, then said "watch the film you'll see it just as I described." "Well how is it poor coaching?" "You ride this kid in each practice, get in his head that he must make that block no matter what." "Yeah that's how we teach them." "Do you know what a pick is in basketball?" "Yeah" The Flacker can run up and seeing the numbers on the back, just stop short of the block and simply stand there, the DE will turn into him and all you need is a simple delay so that the DE cannot get an angle on the running back. So no block in the back. As I said, poor coaching." Coach thanks me and then proceeds to chew out the Assistant Coach for teaching the running back to play illegally. "Ya know what we call that ? Poor Coaching ! Ain't that right Ref?"
I'm sure
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Since I am new, I just saw this...
"Hey ref" (I am a LJ)...they yell this 5 or 6 times. I keep thinking, why are they trying to get the ref's attention all the way out there. Of course, then I realize they are trying to get mine :-[
I heard this exchange once
Coach: (railing about a call)
Ref: If you say anything else, I'm going to throw you out of the game
Coach: Will you throw me out for what I think?
Ref: Well, of course not
Coach: Well, I think you are a f****** idiot