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Football Officiating => NCAA Discussion => Topic started by: BoBo on November 03, 2012, 04:43:11 PM
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4th and 9 from B's 14 yardline
Team A lines up for field goal. Kick is blocked and goes to B's 9 yardline where A recovers the ball. Whistle is blown and play is dead.
Where will the new series for B begin???
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At the 20, anywhere between the hashes that B wants. A played the ball beyond the NZ, not B
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Not previous spot?
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Not previous spot?
Not if the previous spot is inside the 20.
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So missed field goal inside the 20 that does not reach the ez goes to 20 yard line
Missed fg outside the 20 goes to the previous spot
Correct??
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The end zone has nothing to do with it. Untouched by B. Kick ends beyond the NZ. Previous spot inside the 20. We go to the 20.
EX: A's ball 4/7 @ B19. A's FG attempt is short in the EZ. B's ball 1/10 @ B20. Or A's FG attempt is dead @ the B3. Same result.
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So the NCAA does not consider a FG attempt to be a scrimmage kick - which, if it crosses the ENZ, would belong to B where the ball becomes dead?
What is the reasoning behind such a ruling?
Please help a lowly HS ref understand this................
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To make the choice of kicking a field goal have a trade-off. Every time a team crossed the 50, they'd try to kick a FG instead of punt. Best case, you get 3 points, worst case, play results in a touchback.
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To make the choice of kicking a field goal have a trade-off. Every time a team crossed the 50, they'd try to kick a FG instead of punt. Best case, you get 3 points, worst case, play results in a touchback.
Worst case, B returns for TD. That's why you punt -- for better coverage.
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So the NCAA does not consider a FG attempt to be a scrimmage kick ...
Absolutely incorrect. It is a scrimmage kick. However, an unsuccessful field goal attempt untouched by B is a special rule, and the ball is returned to the previous spot, if the previous spot is outside the B-20. Before this rule, Team A would attempt long field goal attempts knowing that the worst they would get out of it would be a touchback for B. That was as good as a punt in many cases. So, to make the game more competitive, they put in this rule. Now, Team A has to decide if the risk is worth the reward for those long field goal attempts.
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Worst case, B returns for TD. That's why you punt -- for better coverage.
Well, that's still technically the worst worst case.
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Absolutely incorrect. It is a scrimmage kick. However, an unsuccessful field goal attempt untouched by B is a special rule, and the ball is returned to the previous spot, if the previous spot is outside the B-20.
This does make some sense...I didn't think about the return to the previous spot
Before this rule, Team A would attempt long field goal attempts knowing that the worst they would get out of it would be a touchback for B. That was as good as a punt in many cases.
What was wrong with that?
So, to make the game more competitive, they put in this rule. Now, Team A has to decide if the risk is worth the reward for those long field goal attempts.
I'm not sure it makes the game "more competitive"; but it does make a miss more punitive!