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Football Officiating => NCAA Discussion => Topic started by: kid50 on November 12, 2012, 07:38:42 AM

Title: Free Kick Ball in Process of Falling When Kicked
Post by: kid50 on November 12, 2012, 07:38:42 AM
I've never seen this happen until now:

Free kick with RFP whistle blown.
Just before kicker kicks ball, it starts to fall from tee.  Before we can blow dead and before it hits ground, kicker (already committed to kicking) kicks ball.  Because ball was falling, kick is off center and is kicked out of bounds untouched just beyond Team B restraining line.  We have flag down and normal options.

Coach from A is upset and wants re-kick.  We tell him that ball was live and result of kick is what it is...Does anyone have anything different?

If ball had hit ground before we killed and kicker kicked, do we still have ball in play?  Since a free kick can be kicked without a tee, at what point is play dead prior to whistle killing it?
Title: Re: Free Kick Ball in Process of Falling When Kicked
Post by: FLBJ on November 12, 2012, 08:09:05 AM
Not to be too 'tongue in cheek' but this is a false start on the ball for moving before being kicked. Shut it down and redo. Anything that happens (just as in a real false start) is immaterial. Coach was correct.

FWIW, ESPECIALLY if it's a windy day, I make sure I tell the kicker that if it starts to fall to NOT kick it.

'Learning opportunity'.
Title: Re: Free Kick Ball in Process of Falling When Kicked
Post by: Ump62 on November 12, 2012, 08:09:22 AM
Kill It.
6-1-2-a
"After the ball is ready for play and for any reason falls from the tee, Team A shall not
kick the ball and the official shall sound his whistle immediately."
Title: Re: Free Kick Ball in Process of Falling When Kicked
Post by: Sonofanump on November 12, 2012, 02:40:43 PM
Agree that re-kick is the only option.

We had 50 mph gust on Saturday with 20-25 prevailing.

As a deep wing on the receiver line, I spent the whole time staring at the ball with the R line in periphery vision to make sure it did not move before kicked
Title: Re: Free Kick Ball in Process of Falling When Kicked
Post by: chymechowder on November 13, 2012, 09:28:03 AM
Agree that re-kick is the only option.

We had 50 mph gust on Saturday with 20-25 prevailing.

As a deep wing on the receiver line, I spent the whole time staring at the ball with the R line in periphery vision to make sure it did not move before kicked

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Title: Re: Free Kick Ball in Process of Falling When Kicked
Post by: 110 on November 13, 2012, 12:39:36 PM
Kill It.
6-1-2-a
"After the ball is ready for play and for any reason falls from the tee, Team A shall not
kick the ball and the official shall sound his whistle immediately."

But Team A did kick the ball, and it had not completed the act of falling ...
Title: Re: Free Kick Ball in Process of Falling When Kicked
Post by: El Macman on November 13, 2012, 12:52:30 PM
But Team A did kick the ball, and it had not completed the act of falling ...

Livin': trust us. At the moment the ball begins to fall from the tee, sound your whistle long and hard - get the play stopped. The ball should be stationary when it is kicked.
Title: Re: Free Kick Ball in Process of Falling When Kicked
Post by: Sonofanump on November 13, 2012, 02:17:48 PM
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I bet you buy a hat like this you get a free bowl of soup.
Title: Re: Free Kick Ball in Process of Falling When Kicked
Post by: FLBJ on November 13, 2012, 02:25:41 PM
I bet you buy a hat like this you get a free bowl of soup.

"Oh, but it looks good on you!"