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Title: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: TXMike on November 14, 2012, 11:02:07 AM
Once again, the one and only, the man behind the curtain, the Docster, comes through.  His playoff game spreadsheet is found at:

http://www.safootballchapter.us/2012TRNY.xls

If you see any holes and know who has the game, let us know.  If you see any errors, let us know.  If you think you have a particular game and see some other Chapter listed for it..you might wanna get on the horn and make some calls.

Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: TexDoc on November 14, 2012, 11:42:53 AM
Just got info from Pecan Valley, so all I'm missing now are:

Sherman vs Texarkana Texas
New Waverley vs Hearne
Poth vs Taft

If you know anything about these please let me know.
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: TxSkyBolt on November 14, 2012, 12:56:01 PM
Doc,

Abilene High and Montwood in Odessa begins at 1300 and the Abilene Cooper game also in Odessa begins at 1800
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: TexDoc on November 14, 2012, 01:05:53 PM
Roger, roger.
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: psv on November 14, 2012, 01:14:54 PM
THANKS DOC! :)
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: fencewire on November 15, 2012, 06:35:41 AM
Many thanks, always a great job!
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: gigmax on November 15, 2012, 07:08:21 AM
Doc,
Houston actually got 55 games.  Not sure what is missing there.
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: Ump62 on November 15, 2012, 08:26:00 AM
Gig -
No Privates included, just UIL.
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: TexDoc on November 15, 2012, 08:33:47 AM
Ump62 is right on, no private schools are included.  I've never tracked them, just UIL type games.
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: Dr.G on November 15, 2012, 09:42:41 AM
I'm always amazed every year how many schools won't use the chapter for the playoffs that have worked both schools games all season.
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: rickref on November 15, 2012, 11:15:45 AM
I'm always amazed every year how many schools won't use the chapter for the playoffs that have worked both schools games all season.
Agree and it is garbage.
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: NTXRef on November 15, 2012, 01:06:05 PM
Look forward to this every year.  Thanks, Doc!

Couple of corrections from Dallas area.  Forney/Prosper is playing at Allen (4A-Div II) and Dallas Roosevelt has been removed from playoffs for using an inelgible player and replaced by Wilmer Hutchins (3A-Div II) (still vs. Mellissa with same time and venue).

Echo sentiments about schools that we service.  Dallas is missing out on Skyline-Plano.  A little surprising considering that Skyline wasn't to happy with outcome in similar situation last year vs. SL Carroll.  Go figure.
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: TexDoc on November 15, 2012, 02:46:21 PM
Thanks for the info. 
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: allen on November 15, 2012, 03:30:54 PM
Thanks TXMike.
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: clearwall on November 15, 2012, 07:12:20 PM
Look forward to this every year.  Thanks, Doc!

Couple of corrections from Dallas area.  Forney/Prosper is playing at Allen (4A-Div II) and Dallas Roosevelt has been removed from playoffs for using an inelgible player and replaced by Wilmer Hutchins (3A-Div II) (still vs. Mellissa with same time and venue).

Echo sentiments about schools that we service.  Dallas is missing out on Skyline-Plano.  A little surprising considering that Skyline wasn't to happy with outcome in similar situation last year vs. SL Carroll.  Go figure.

The chain crew is from Dallas, however. aWaRd
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: TXMike on November 15, 2012, 07:13:47 PM
Same thing happening down here.  Apparently our on field crews are not up to the task but our chain crews and timers are spot on
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: clearwall on November 15, 2012, 07:21:59 PM
    Fri   11/16/2012   6:00 PM   Fulton School    San Antonio - Town East    6-Man
    Fri   11/16/2012   7:30 PM   James Bowie    Valley View    1A       

Being worked by Commerce Chapter
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: TxSkyBolt on November 15, 2012, 08:39:28 PM
   Fri   11/16/2012   6:00 PM   Fulton School    San Antonio - Town East    6-Man    

Being worked by Commerce Chapter

As stated before, TexDoc doesn't do private schools.
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: clearwall on November 16, 2012, 12:00:07 AM
As stated before, TexDoc doesn't do private schools.

Im  only partly helpful then.  tiphat:
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: TxSkyBolt on November 16, 2012, 07:34:21 AM
Maybe someone could take on the private school bracket?
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: clearwall on November 17, 2012, 09:31:08 AM
Oh man, I got a last minute call to fill in on  the chains at Wylie East/Sulphur Springs...what an outstanding showing by Wylie. They have two D1 WR recruits that were simply amazing. Final score was 70-21, but Wylie started taking a knee with 7 mins left in the game. They EASILY could have topped 100. Ive never seen a HS football game that dynamic before
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: TexDoc on November 17, 2012, 10:33:05 AM
There are usually huge blowouts in the first round since the UIL has so watered down who gets into the playoffs. 
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: 940AC on November 17, 2012, 10:49:51 AM
There are usually huge blowouts in the first round since the UIL has so watered down who gets into the playoffs.

And when they expand the 3A and below classes to 4 teams in per district, it's going to get worse.
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: clearwall on November 17, 2012, 11:08:11 AM
There are usually huge blowouts in the first round since the UIL has so watered down who gets into the playoffs.
Yeah, that's true. My alma  mater was playing a 3-7 team in round 1. Dont know how the heck that can happen, honestly.
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: JasonTX on November 17, 2012, 11:10:28 AM
Maybe someone could take on the private school bracket?

I'll make a motion that TxSkyBolt put together the priviate school bracket. :thumbup
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: DallasLJ on November 17, 2012, 03:18:10 PM
I'll make a motion that TxSkyBolt put together the priviate school bracket. :thumbup
  Seconded!
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: TXMike on November 21, 2012, 04:20:47 PM
Doc has updated the spreadsheet for this weekend

http://www.safootballchapter.us/2012TRNY.xls
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: Cowman52 on November 21, 2012, 06:40:21 PM
Doc,  thanks
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: 940AC on November 22, 2012, 12:16:56 AM
Great work Doc, thanks!
It appears that a few more games are being done with the "keeping it in the family" motto.
Noticed quite a few games where the teams are using their local chapter instead of farming it out to another chapter. Good to see!
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: TXMike on November 27, 2012, 04:59:34 PM
Doc has finished the Week 3 update

http://www.safootballchapter.us/2012TRNY.xls (http://www.safootballchapter.us/2012TRNY.xls)
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: TXMike on December 04, 2012, 02:21:09 PM

Doc has finished the Week 4 update

http://www.safootballchapter.us/2012TRNY.xls

A few holes there so if you know the info, send it on
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: NTXRef on December 06, 2012, 10:03:51 PM
Dallas got late edition of Manor and Fort Bend Marshall in 4A-II.
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: Coby on December 07, 2012, 07:34:02 AM
Does Anyone know who is calling the 3 TAPPS state championship games this weekend?  It is not Houston.  Thanks
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: TexDoc on December 07, 2012, 11:27:15 AM
College Station has Ft. Worth Nolan and Addison Trinity

South Plains has Houston Northland and Midland Christian

Not sure on the third one yet.
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: TexDoc on December 07, 2012, 11:35:28 AM
Not sure about the third one but it might be Waco.
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: Ump62 on December 08, 2012, 09:55:57 AM
Is the same Lubbock crew that worked a 6Man game in Snyder, Friday night, working Georgetown v Nederland (4A Div I) Sat afternoon in Houston?!
Title: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: TxSkyBolt on December 09, 2012, 08:53:38 AM
No


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Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: adaref on December 10, 2012, 03:42:10 PM
Waco, did work the other TAPPS game.
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: Getting Fat on December 11, 2012, 11:01:45 AM
It's strange, Doc has been so good and consistent at creating the spreadsheet that I now feel entitled to it.  Thanks Doc.  With that said, where is it?
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: TexDoc on December 11, 2012, 01:12:55 PM
The last two weeks of the season everyone seems to be real slow with getting information out.  Not sure why.

I just sent it to Mike for him to post.

I'm still looking for who is doing Wall and Daingerfield. 
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: TXMike on December 11, 2012, 01:33:02 PM
The link has been updated.

http://www.safootballchapter.us/2012TRNY.xls
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: Getting Fat on December 11, 2012, 01:40:43 PM
Thanks Doc.  Anybody know if / where the 3A Championship game this weekend will be on TV?
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: TXMike on December 11, 2012, 02:04:08 PM
http://lonestargridiron.com/2012/12/07/uil-texas-high-school-football-state-championships-tv-coverage/
 
http://www.foxsportssouthwest.com/12/06/12/UIL-Texas-High-School-Football-State-Cha/landing.html?blockID=831753&feedID=3742
 
 

Looks like it will be if you have "The Texas Channel"
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: TexDoc on December 11, 2012, 02:30:53 PM
I clicked on the bottom link and this is all I saw.  There may have been words on the page or whatever, but this all I saw, really!

(http://www.foxsportssouthwest.com/common/medialib/269/702051.jpg)
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: psv on December 11, 2012, 10:48:19 PM
Thanks Doc :)
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: DonM on December 17, 2012, 02:50:13 PM
Greg,
The last couple of times I've tried to access the file, I get a message that the file is corrupt.
Get the same message at home and at the office.
Can you repair it?
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: TXMike on December 17, 2012, 04:02:59 PM
I just clicked on it and it worked fine. It may be all those "special" sites you visit Don that have corrupted your machine
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: Archie on December 18, 2012, 12:20:55 PM
Do El Paso or the Texas valley chapters ever get to officiate in the semis or finals?  This chart seems very skewed to the bigger cities or the areas closer to Dallas and Houston.  Why not give the officials from the other areas a shot at the playoffs every once in a while?  I'm sure they have some excellent crews that would do a good job in the games.
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: allen on December 18, 2012, 03:38:12 PM
It's rare.  I know Amarillo had it's 2nd EVER State Championship assignment last season. (and both were 6 man)

And just compared with Lubbock on playoff assignments is pretty uneven.

Location is king, which sucks for the outer chapters.
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: TXMike on December 18, 2012, 06:40:54 PM
Do El Paso or the Texas valley chapters ever get to officiate in the semis or finals?  This chart seems very skewed to the bigger cities or the areas closer to Dallas and Houston.  Why not give the officials from the other areas a shot at the playoffs every once in a while?  I'm sure they have some excellent crews that would do a good job in the games.

You need to bring this up to coaches and the UIL.  It is their show
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: TXMike on December 18, 2012, 06:42:25 PM

Doc has updated the spreadsheet for this weekend

http://www.safootballchapter.us/2012TRNY.xls
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: Welpe on December 19, 2012, 09:56:40 AM
Do El Paso or the Texas valley chapters ever get to officiate in the semis or finals?  This chart seems very skewed to the bigger cities or the areas closer to Dallas and Houston.  Why not give the officials from the other areas a shot at the playoffs every once in a while?  I'm sure they have some excellent crews that would do a good job in the games.

Dontchaknow that Houston and Dallas are the only places where you can find good officials?



*Yes, tongue firmly planted in cheek.
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: TXMike on December 19, 2012, 10:03:02 AM
Tyler has both 5A games this weekend and may have had 1 or both last year also.   

But let's be honest, the only thing HARD about games at this level is the impact and significance of the game.  I bet there were plenty of 1A and 2A games around the state this season that were very difficult to work, no matter who had them yet they may have had "lesser" officials working them. 
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: TxSkyBolt on December 19, 2012, 10:51:39 AM
Tyler had the 4A Div.I and the 5A Div.I games in 2011....wonder what their secret is?
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: Etref on December 19, 2012, 11:38:58 AM
 LOL
Tyler had the 4A Div.I and the 5A Div.I games in 2011....wonder what their secret is?


Hard work and clean living is what we are supposed to tell folks................ LOL


Actually Tyler Chapter has had quite a few title games in the last few years. Coaches talk to one another and make recommendations.
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: DallasLJ on December 19, 2012, 12:09:28 PM
That and Dallas and Houston are usually shut out of the 5A and 4A games because their local teams are playing for championships.
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: TexDoc on December 19, 2012, 01:44:39 PM
Some observations about playoff games this year.

Houston was down for the third year in a row.  In 2009 they peaked, with 135 total games.  2010 - 123, 2011 - 115, 2012 - 107.  I don't think this has anything to do with Houston, but more to do with the other chapters working hard to pick those games back up.

Dallas was up significantly this year, I guess as a benefactor of Houston's losses.  Perhaps coaches are looking to use Dallas instead of Houston, or maybe it is just coincidence due to who was playing.  Next year's numbers will tell us more.

San Antonio is back up after a hiccup last year.  They went down 11 last year from 2010 but were back up to normal this year.  Why?  Most likely just a matter of who was playing.

East Texas was down for some reason.  Waco and Permian also.  The one that gained the most, percentage-wise, was Central Texas (Temple).  They doubled their playoff totals for some reason.  Their first week totaled the same they had the entire season last year.

The one they baffles me is Tyler.  Before 2006, they didn't get many of the larger school final games, but they routinely get them now.  Something has changed there that doesn't make any sense.  You would think those larger playoff games would go to the bigger chapter that do many more of the larger classification games throughout the season and playoffs. 

The last one is Abilene.  The same crew worked two "big" playoff games last week, and has a 4A championship this week.  Congrats guys.  You must be doing something right.
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: DallasLJ on December 19, 2012, 04:40:56 PM
Is there anyway to tell whether the Tyler selections were by agreement of the schools, or by UIL choice?
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: Etref on December 19, 2012, 05:23:10 PM
Is there anyway to tell whether the Tyler selections were by agreement of the schools, or by UIL choice?

As I understand, they were both coach request.




Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: centexsports on December 19, 2012, 08:39:53 PM
The Central Texas (Temple) increase was due to several factors but one in particular:  The new 5a district got our chapter more exposure and the coaches gave a number of crews good recommendations to other inquiring coaches. It got my crew two metroplex 4a playoff games.
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: 504coach on December 20, 2012, 07:27:12 AM
Once again the Houston Chapter is shut out of 6man playoff games.  This continues to be the longest streak of any chapter and lack of selection from any specific classification of games.  When will the other chapters learn to share this group of games?  When will the 6man coaches across the state realize that the Houston chapter calls over 150 varsity 6man games a year.  This needs to change and someone needs to do something about it. yEs:

Merry XMAS
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: TXMike on December 20, 2012, 07:39:42 AM
Once again the Houston Chapter is shut out of 6man playoff games.  This continues to be the longest streak of any chapter and lack of selection from any specific classification of games.  When will the other chapters learn to share this group of games?  When will the 6man coaches across the state realize that the Houston chapter calls over 150 varsity 6man games a year.  This needs to change and someone needs to do something about it. yEs:

Merry XMAS
tiphat: aWaRd ^good

I feel your pain!!!   I believe all the other Chapters should refuse 6 man Champ games until Houston has had their "fair share".   ;D
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: TexDoc on December 20, 2012, 07:49:54 AM
Once again the Houston Chapter is shut out of 6man playoff games.  This continues to be the longest streak of any chapter and lack of selection from any specific classification of games.  When will the other chapters learn to share this group of games?  When will the 6man coaches across the state realize that the Houston chapter calls over 150 varsity 6man games a year.  This needs to change and someone needs to do something about it. yEs:

Merry XMAS

 aWaRd  You win!
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: Joe Stack on December 20, 2012, 02:54:40 PM
I pledge not to work a Houston area 6 man playoff game until a Houston crew works one first.  ^no
Title: Re: 2012 Playoff Games
Post by: JasonTX on December 20, 2012, 11:03:58 PM
I pledge not to work a Houston area 6 man playoff game until a Houston crew works one first.  ^no

I'll take it a step further.  I will trade a 6 man playoff game for one of your 6A games next year.  We'll get you boys in the bracket.