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Football Officiating => Texas Topics => Topic started by: TxSkyBolt on December 21, 2012, 02:02:33 PM
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Wings too.
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Was he only 1 wearing it?
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Entire crew has them on
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It's the communication device the SEC has used all year. The UIL let the company that is pitching them bring it to the state games and they are giving the crews the option to wear them. There are 2 different type. You can have an open mic to each other or a push to talk. I for one, wouldn't want to try something new on game such as this. Bad decision by the UIL to allow it.
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It's the communication device the SEC has used all year. The UIL let the company that is pitching them bring it to the state games and they are giving the crews the option to wear them. There are 2 different type. You can have an open mic to each other or a push to talk. I for one, wouldn't want to try something new on game such as this. Bad decision by the UIL to allow it.
Nothing in TASO mechanics that I saw would allow them to wear them.
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Nothing in the TASO mechanics said you could wear a UIL hat but they wore them before. :-X
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Nothing in TASO mechanics that I saw would allow them to wear them.
Nothing disallows them either. I am okay with the experiment but wonder about the wisdom of someone who is allegedly the guru of officiating in Texas and who would allow this sort of distraction in arguably the biggest games of the year. These are the same folks who think you can just start doing instant replay reviews at this stage of the season and all will be good
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Put'em in TASO jail, I doubt they'd care.
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Nothing in the TASO mechanics said you could wear a UIL hat but they wore them before. :-X
I am pretty sure that I've heard the last two TASO clinicians paraphrase these words, "This manual is not a bible full of laws, but it is more like a recipe book for success."
I think the ability to communicate on the field is great and would welcome it. It will be interesting to see the results of the experiment. I wonder if the two Tyler crews that worked the 5A finals liked them enough to consider their purchase? And I wonder what they cost?
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http://www.vokkero.com/en/solution/10-refereeing
I don't know if this is the gear they had but accoding to this website, you have to contact them for a price quote.
This is another system: http://www.eartec.com/comstarwirelessr.html Price is $3,000 for 7 person system
Or you can build your own system: http://www.instructables.com/answers/How-to-build-your-own-soccerfootball-referee-comm/
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Several of you have picked up on my major concern when these devices were used for the first time in last year's AHSAA championship games: Why are we trying something new and unfamiliar NOW?
The AHSAA sponsors 3 pre-season Champions Challenge games that don't count toward a team's record. They also have the annual Alabama-Mississippi All-Star game the week after the championship games.
Seems like it would make much more sense to try this experiment in those games.
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I was the R in the game and we were the first to try them. We had discussed it as a crew and decided to try them in the pregame, if we were comfortable and everyone was in, it would be a go. The benefit was outstanding, I would wear them every game if they were more affordable. I would be happy to discuss them with anyone that has a question about it. I do not have a single negative thing to say about using them.
On a side note there was no UIL co hersion to use them or not to use them. It was simply on opportunity to make us better and it helps.
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Lonnie,
I would think these would help in speeding up the game with officials calling fouls "reporting" the foul to the R via radio. It seemed that officials still came to you face to face to report fouls. What other benefit did you see?
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I say props for being willing and able to try something new.
I am sure if they caused some sort of distraction that you guys would have removed them at the first opportunity.
I'd be interested to hear the details of the benefits.
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I'm sure that there is an app for some sort of 5-way conference calling with cell phones and bluetooth headsets.
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I'm sure that there is an app for some sort of 5-way conference calling with cell phones and bluetooth headsets.
Yeah, it's called Skype :)
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I bet I could build a system similar to this using FRS, coded radios and the right head sets for about $150 to $200.
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I was the R in the game and we were the first to try them. We had discussed it as a crew and decided to try them in the pregame, if we were comfortable and everyone was in, it would be a go. The benefit was outstanding, I would wear them every game if they were more affordable. I would be happy to discuss them with anyone that has a question about it. I do not have a single negative thing to say about using them.
On a side note there was no UIL co hersion to use them or not to use them. It was simply on opportunity to make us better and it helps.
Did you go push-to-talk or open? What was the biggest benefit?
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I can set up a complete replay system using Gopro.com cameras and an Ipad for $1200 that will be quicker then the NFL or NCAA system. I agree on the I phone comments.
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I can set up a complete replay system using Gopro.com cameras and an Ipad for $1200 that will be quicker then the NFL or NCAA system. I agree on the I phone comments.
Yeah, but how many commercials can you sell why they look at yours.
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How many crews used a communication setup this year?
If you did, did you use radios or purchase a system designed for officiating?
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It's the communication device the SEC has used all year. The UIL let the company that is pitching them bring it to the state games and they are giving the crews the option to wear them. There are 2 different type. You can have an open mic to each other or a push to talk. I for one, wouldn't want to try something new on game such as this. Bad decision by the UIL to allow it.
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Totally agreed! Ranks right up there with donning those cheap :bOW tiphat: Manor Road cRaZy hats!
And to quote former First Lady Nancy Reagan, "Just say, No!" z^
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Im kind of shocked to see the resistance to using these things. I cant imagine having communication devices could be considered as difficult or confusing as some here make it seem. Heck, I give my 6 yr old a walkie talkie and he can figure it out just fine.
Kill the clock as normal, push your radio button.
B: "Hey guys, I've got a facemask here at the end of the play"
R: "Ok, TxMike got it. Who did you get and where is the spot?"
B: "Number 34, white. End of the run, the B43. Enforce 15 yards, itll be 1st at the B28."
R: "Got it, thanks"
R makes his usual signals and announcement, U marks it off, play on.
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But that didn't happen in this game...
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Thats my point...how hard can that be? How hard are we MAKING this?
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My primary objection to them is that it's quite possible that with the technology that we have today, that anybody might be able to successfully hack into the frequency and listen in to whatever you may be verbally conveying to your crew mates.
And don't say that it can't be done. It's already being done! z^
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What big difference does it make if someone overhears the B say " my flag is for KCI at the end of the kick spot is the 34"
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What big difference does it make if someone overhears the B say " my flag is for KCI at the end of the kick spot is the 34"
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That ain't my fear! My fear is someone might accidentally hear some loving colorful "under-their-breath" remark that anyone of my crew of miscreants might inadvertently make during the course of a game. That's reason enough to keep the R's microphone silenced only until absolutely needed! z^
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I would hope they are all "push-to-talk and not voice actuated or it could get ugly indeed. Lots of not so nice things being said by players and coaches
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I am more worried about my R telling me what yardline to look up 6 rows at the hot mom during pre snap.
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I am more worried about my R telling me what yardline to look up 6 rows at the hot mom during pre snap.
Knowing your Ref, I can see that............... LOL
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HA yes he would. That White hat is retiring. I actually was not with him these last two years. But my new one for the next two yeah he would say that!
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Our crew tried a set out last night for the first time. Takes some getting used to. I liked it for penalties and general info. It takes some getting used to, but could probably be a good tool once you got used to it.