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Football Officiating => Texas Topics => Topic started by: TxJim on December 22, 2012, 10:54:35 PM

Title: Lamar double pass 4th qtr
Post by: TxJim on December 22, 2012, 10:54:35 PM

Anyone see the double pass at 8:30 in the 4th qtr?  That first pass looked very close to forward.  Maybe TxMike has got a clip.

Title: Re: Lamar double pass 4th qtr
Post by: JasonTX on December 22, 2012, 11:29:58 PM

Yep.  It was discussed in the chat room.

Title: Re: Lamar double pass 4th qtr
Post by: TXMike on December 23, 2012, 07:14:03 AM

The play: 

http://youtu.be/nPf2wcdSj4w

What I see:  A84 releases the ball at the A-47.  A3 is at the A49 at that moment but does not touch the ball until he and the ball are at the A-47.  Not clearly forward, so it is backwards.   Also, L never punches back to indicate backward pass but perhaps this crew does not use that mechanic.  Or perhaps it all happened so fast, he was not immediately sure.

Title: Re: Lamar double pass 4th qtr
Post by: fencewire on December 23, 2012, 08:27:28 AM

Quote from: TXMike on December 23, 2012, 07:14:03 AM

Not clearly forward, so it is backwards.

That seems to contradict 2.19.2.a

Quote

...When in question a pass thrown in or behind the neutral zone is forward rather than a backward....

Title: Re: Lamar double pass 4th qtr
Post by: TXMike on December 23, 2012, 09:00:04 AM

I was going with the first part of the rule that says passes are either forward or backward.  It does not look forward so I am going with backward. 

Title: Re: Lamar double pass 4th qtr
Post by: Magician on December 23, 2012, 09:03:24 AM

With the benefit of slow motion replay I believe that is forward but it's close. Not a horrible call on the field.