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Football Officiating => NCAA Discussion => Topic started by: TXMike on December 23, 2012, 09:53:42 AM
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Deja vu all over again..I just don't see how a guy can be excused for a hit in the white when his direction of movement and aiming point are clearly going to make the hit happen in the white.
http://youtu.be/1zYtDF4ZQsQ
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^flag
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Ditto
BTW Why is the UIL sign inside the limit line? Ain't that illegal?
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no flag. pretty inexcusable on the zebras part
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4 feet in the white - clearly a foul
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I'd like a sideline view to see if the push by White #18 added to his momentum.
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Holy cow, how did two officials miss that one?
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^flag 9-1-3
possibly flagrant if you consider he launched
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Ditto
BTW Why is the UIL sign inside the limit line? Ain't that illegal?
Looks to me like it's on the limit line. The white one -there's also a yellow one a bit further back.
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Not to pile on, but to learn from this play, I think the problem might be mechanics.
I don’t work on the line of scrimmage, but why is the H moving downfield at the snap, he has to stop and hop back to let the play get in front of him. I thought that the LOS guys would take a step back into the backfield on a sweep towards them.
The S is awfully quick to get the ball from the ball carrier. I don’t move for at least a count or two after the play. Getting a ball can wait, flagging late hits can not.
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This certainly APPEARS that the hit is out of bounds but I don't see how you all can be so definitive about this being a foul. We're looking at a shot from the opposite sideline. Both feet of the defender are in bounds. It's really hard to tell where the runner actually is. It is for me anyway.
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Not to pile on, but to learn from this play, I think the problem might be mechanics.
I don’t work on the line of scrimmage, but why is the H moving downfield at the snap, he has to stop and hop back to let the play get in front of him. I thought that the LOS guys would take a step back into the backfield on a sweep towards them.
The S is awfully quick to get the ball from the ball carrier. I don’t move for at least a count or two after the play. Getting a ball can wait, flagging late hits can not.
The H moves downfield because he is responsible for the "belt area". The belt is the area anywhere from the line of scrimmage to behind the Umpire. Moving the H at the snap gives him a line of sight straight through the belt. As for moving to the get the ball. You are exactly correct. Let the players separate and then we can get a ball in.
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Looks to me like it's on the limit line. The white one -there's also a yellow one a bit further back.
The lines do look a bit different than NCAA. Was the game at Cowboys Stadium? Is the field marked differently in the NFL?
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The H moves downfield because he is responsible for the "belt area". The belt is the area anywhere from the line of scrimmage to behind the Umpire. Moving the H at the snap gives him a line of sight straight through the belt. As for moving to the get the ball. You are exactly correct. Let the players separate and then we can get a ball in.
H would move if he read pass, but with a run you are going to hold the line, if you run comes at you as in this play you would move back up the field to have a better view, and more importantly to keep your rear from getting trucked...
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H would move if he read pass, but with a run you are going to hold the line, if you run comes at you as in this play you would move back up the field to have a better view, and more importantly to keep your rear from getting trucked...
ditto that...no way H or L should be "floating" until they read pass...unless the are responsible for GL