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Football Officiating => NCAA Discussion => Topic started by: TxJim on December 26, 2012, 12:26:38 AM

Title: Kinda fun to look at some old time mechanics
Post by: TxJim on December 26, 2012, 12:26:38 AM
but this one made my knees hurt watching what happened to this wing ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLfIECXtEIk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLfIECXtEIk)
Title: Re: Kinda fun to look at some old time mechanics
Post by: TXMike on December 26, 2012, 05:09:47 AM
Was that the wing or the Umpire? ? ?   Looks like they swapped places during the play.
Title: Re: Kinda fun to look at some old time mechanics
Post by: TxSkyBolt on December 26, 2012, 08:59:41 AM
First inadvertent signal?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FnKeHdy_WM
Title: Re: Kinda fun to look at some old time mechanics
Post by: Aussie-Zebra on December 26, 2012, 03:32:02 PM
First inadvertent signal?

Interesting  ^good on the 5 yd line. I'm sure there were some before that though. Interesting this game is from Dec 7th 1941
Title: Re: Kinda fun to look at some old time mechanics
Post by: RedTD on December 27, 2012, 10:32:59 AM
Here is some video of the "first" 5th down play. Working wide was not the way it was done "back in the day"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKvefN4PmT4
Title: Re: Kinda fun to look at some old time mechanics
Post by: Joe Stack on December 27, 2012, 10:42:20 PM
My favorite one of these is the 1979 Cotton Bowl between Notre Dame and Houston. Or, the Dallas version of the Ice Bowl. I remember that day and how cold it was (lived in the Dallas area at the time). The interesting thing wasn't so much the mechanics (you can find several videos on YT) but that the officials wore what was clearly seen as jackets. Sort of a no-no north of subvarsity, but on a day like that, if the game was going to be played, wear whatever you need to in order to keep warm. I'm sure those guys still froze their butts off and talk about that game to this day (assuming they're around).
Title: Re: Kinda fun to look at some old time mechanics
Post by: PSK on January 04, 2013, 01:30:37 AM
Here is some video of the "first" 5th down play. Working wide was not the way it was done "back in the day"

And this is what Dave Nelson had to say about it:

"The 1940 Dartmouth-Cornell game, referred to as the 'Fifth Down' game, haunts officials and Rules Committees whenever an official's error is perceived as the act responsible for the loss of a game. The aftermath of the game played that cold November day in Hanover, New Hampshire, has mistakenly become the standard of conduct expected of teams who win by officiating errors. ...

"The 1940 rule was the same as it is today: the team with the greater number of points at the end of four periods is the winner. Cornell and Dartmouth violated the rule and it has haunted the game and institutions who play by the rules ever since.

"After the Dartmouth-Cornell game, whenever an official errs on a victory or defeat decision, there is a hue and cry that the team that benefited from the error should violate the rules of the game and offer the game to the loser. NCAA institutions are required to play by the NCAA playing rules and it is not possible for an institution to award a game to the opponent when the final score is not in their favor.

"One of the joys of a college football game is its finality and the lack of an appellate system. Like the rest of football, an official's error is just one more 'rub of the green' that is part of a total education."

- David M. Nelson, "Anatomy Of A Game", pp. 212-214