TASO Football Board Meeting

[TXMike]

I know what you're trying to say, but its a little strange reading this and realizing few, if any, teams plan for or practice incomplete passes (other than spikes).

Just to be clear, I am saying there are teams that throw, throw, throw, knowing that even if they do not complete and make 1st downs, they have not lost much game time.  They can then rely on defense to get them the ball back and throw, throw, throw again

[Etref]

Did the THSCA adopt the 25/40 sec clock?

[TXMike]

It is not up to them to adopt.  It is up to the UIL.  I think UIL has their rules meeting in April so it will likely be posed then

[Etref]

I know it is up to UIL but normally all three entities ( TASO, UIL and THSCA) have some input.

[Joe Stack]

So if we did go to the 40, I guess we'd almost have to keep it on the field in subvarsity and actually enforce it, unlike now were most of us don't use a hard 25 clock.

[TXMike]

Why would it have to be enforced any harder?

[beaye1]

I think I remember hearing this weekend that is wasn't going to be used for the upcoming year.

[Joe Stack]

Why would it have to be enforced any harder?

We're going from 25-30 with teams sometimes trying to milk the clock to 40+, 32-35+ when the ball is set. With short passes and ground games, I can see a team run only 5 plays in 4 minutes under these timing rules. 8 and even 10 minute quarters will go by REAL FAST.

All I'm saying is that if we do go to this (or when, I guess, is the better qualifier), TASO needs to set firm guidelines on how we enforce this (or if at all) in subvarsity games without a stadium clock. Right now, its up to the chapter if any attention is given to it at all.

[TXMike]

I am not understanding the issue?

Before, R's should have been getting the ball marked RFP within 12-15 secs after ball becomoing dead.  Then Team A had 25 secs (or perhaps a bit longer when there was no visible play clock) to snap.  So they were getting 37-40 secs (or longer when no visible play clock) to snap.  That is the same as what they will get under a 25/40 scenario. 

[Rulesman]

I am not understanding the issue?

Before, R's should have been getting the ball marked RFP within 12-15 secs after ball becomoing dead.  Then Team A had 25 secs (or perhaps a bit longer when there was no visible play clock) to snap.  So they were getting 37-40 secs (or longer when no visible play clock) to snap.  That is the same as what they will get under a 25/40 scenario.

You are correct. That's the whole purpose of the 40/25 clock. What I found it accomplishes more than anything else is consistency from play to play and once you get used to it I think you will like it. Admittingly, it make the whole crew work harder in that there is less "down" time -- you really have to hustle from the end of one play to the beginning of the next -- and decent ball boys/girls are ESSENTIAL.

[Joe Stack]

The issue is coaches complaining that we're letting a team who's in a running game and milking the clock use too much time. A lot of times with a 3 or 4 yard run play, we can have the ball spotted in a few seconds rather than 8-10, so now the 25+ becomes 35+ in some cases. I've heard coaches start yelling as soon as 18 seconds that they're already using too much time; I shudder to think what might happen under the new rule.

All I'm saying is that let's be prepared and have a guideline that's consistent for the play clock on subvarsity games where the actual clock isn't turned on.

Is there anyone in the state actually using a turned-on play clock in subvarsity games? I never have.

[TXMike]

Moot point this year.  40/25 is dead until possibly 2014

[Refag50]

I would like to see a running clock in sub varsity games.

[rickref]

Moot point this year.  40/25 is dead until possibly 2014

So this was voted against for sure?

[TXMike]

Will formally be done on Apr 8 at their Rules Committee meeting.

[ETXZebra]

Will formally be done on Apr 8 at their Rules Committee meeting.

Has anyone heard the results of this meeting?