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Offline centexsports

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Ball ready for play
« on: October 05, 2019, 06:53:53 PM »
2nd and 1.  Team A runs dive and gains 2 yards.  Umpire steps up and spots the ball.  Chains move and 40 sec clock starts. Two linemen, one A and one B get up slow. Team A player shoves team B player.  Dead ball personal foul.  1st and 10 or 1st and 25?
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Re: Ball ready for play
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2019, 09:27:49 PM »
Quote from: centexsports on October 05, 2019, 06:53:53 PM
2nd and 1.  Team A runs dive and gains 2 yards.  Umpire steps up and spots the ball.  Chains move and 40 sec clock starts. Two linemen, one A and one B get up slow. Team A player shoves team B player.  Dead ball personal foul.  1st and 10 or 1st and 25?

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Offline ElvisLives

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Re: Ball ready for play
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2019, 10:27:39 PM »
Quote from: centexsports on October 05, 2019, 06:53:53 PM
2nd and 1.  Team A runs dive and gains 2 yards.  Umpire steps up and spots the ball.  Chains move and 40 sec clock starts. Two linemen, one A and one B get up slow. Team A player shoves team B player.  Dead ball personal foul.  1st and 10 or 1st and 25?

The heart of the question is, "Was the ball ready for play?"  Just because the ball gets spotted doesn't mean it is ready for play.  We know that it isn't ready until all officials are in position to officiate.  If players - especially opponents - are still getting to their feet, it is probably wise to say that the ball isn't yet ready for play, too.  That has no effect on the game or play clocks - they can keep running.  So, when the dead-ball foul occurs, it is still between series, and Team A will have 1/10 after the penalty.

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Offline centexsports

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Re: Ball ready for play
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2019, 09:11:48 AM »
Ok, I agree based on philosophy.  But is it fair to say that by rule and definition,  the ball is ready for play? 

I do see a difference here between say a late hit out of bounds, a late piling on or another foul that is part of the actions of the play that just ended. 
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Offline TxBJ

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Re: Ball ready for play
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2019, 09:22:08 AM »
Another thing to note is that it is a dead ball UNS based on your description, not personal foul, based on the rule change a few years ago. Very important distinction.
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Re: Ball ready for play
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2019, 11:32:15 PM »
If there are still players separating from the previous play your crew had better still be officiating those players and the U should NOT step away from the ball making it ready for play. It makes no matter where the ball is at the moment (spotted or not). The R wouldn't have blown the ready for play last year in that situation so the U shouldn't step away in that situation.
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