[quote author=jra104 link=topic=17799.msg178669#msg178669 date=1788904875]
Right... My head coach getting nervous about any strange formations. How about this one for a punt, We have 5 ineligible numbers with 78 the center and want to throw a pass to 80 where the K runs right to 98, 98 gets a handoff behind the K, and 98 throws a pass to 80. We will not send the ineligibles down field. Only 87, 80, and 10 will run pass routes.
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80 78 64 52 74 55 98
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Well, on the assumption that 15 and K are both at least 7-yards behind the NZ at the snap, with 15 in a potential ‘holder’ posture (i.e., on his knee), this WOULD qualify as a scrimmage kick formation, even with 87 and 98 spread wide. So, 78 has snapper protections. Faking the kick and handing to 98 is all legal, and throwing a pass to 80 is legal.
Strictly a opinionated observation, but I have my doubts about the success of this play. The defense simply has too many openings to rush into the backfield. Best of luck!
CORRECTION
Oh, you said a punt. In that case 15 can be wherever he wants as long as he isn’t in the width of the frame of the snapper’s body at the snap, or in a direct line between the snapper and the kicker. And he certainly does not have to be
in a holder posture. The kicker must be at least 10 yards behind the neutral zone, at the snap. All of this to make the formation qualify as a SKF, to give the snapper his protections.
Sorry about the misunderstanding.
As Kalle said, any time you have at least 5 linemen numbered 50-79, and no more than 4 players in the backfield, you can be in whatever formation you want. But, only a true SKF gives the snapper his protections.
