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Offline JasonTX

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Navasota vs Gilmer
« on: December 21, 2012, 04:54:40 PM »
TXMike, do you have video of the TD that Navasota scored at 11:55 2nd Qtr.  During the Try, Gilmer blocked the kick.  At some point a flag was thrown against Gilmer for a face mask.  Gilmer recovered and was down pretty much immediately after the recovery. The penalty was enforced on the kickoff.  Navasota kicked from the B-45.  The only way that would be a correct enforcement is if it were a dead ball or flagrant personal foul.  It was not announced as either.  7 man crew and nobody steps up to discuss the enforcement.

Please referees, do not announce, "We have" in front of what foul you have.  "We have a personal foul."  etc.
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Offline TxSkyBolt

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Re: Navasota vs Gilmer
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2012, 05:06:11 PM »
If it had been prior to COP, they'd have replayed the down.  After COP, declined by rule  ^no
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Offline TXMike

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Re: Navasota vs Gilmer
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2012, 05:31:29 PM »
Is that a pooch I hear yelping?   He musta been screwed.   ;D

Hard to tell what happened thanks to the tight camera angle.  No announcement that it was a deadball foul.  I will put the clip up but it is not definitive at all.  Still a good play for discussion about PATs and penalty enforcement.
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Offline TXMike

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Re: Navasota vs Gilmer
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2012, 05:59:14 PM »
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Offline Joe Stack

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Re: Navasota vs Gilmer
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2012, 06:16:55 PM »
I think most people think all personal fouls are enforced on the kickoff since there are one or two other situations where PFs carry over but all other fouls do not.

I'm not sure why the rules committee has chosen to highlight out dead ball fouls, flagrant fouls, USC fouls, and live ball fouls treated as dead ball fouls for carry over but not others. You could have a sideline infraction foul carry over but a facemask foul not carry over.
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Offline Wingmanbp

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Re: Navasota vs Gilmer
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2013, 11:53:54 AM »
I was at this game and what I saw was a facemask after the play and should have been a dead ball call. It was well after the play. You can barely see in the video the defender coming after the kicker. Well they get in a scuffle and he pulls him down by his facemask! At least thats how I remember it.
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Offline Etref

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Re: Navasota vs Gilmer
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2013, 01:34:25 PM »
One other thing for discussion was the R should have backed either to the sideline for back to the middle of the field and not turned his back on the play, especially if it were a 5 man crew because he would have not help on the L side.


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