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Offline psv

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Batting of a Scrimmage Kick by Team B.
« on: October 30, 2013, 01:12:43 PM »
We had a lively discussion about this during our meeting this week and I wanted to see what others thought as well.  I have 3 different scenarios.  I will let you know how our discussions went but I wanted to see if anyone else had any thoughts.

Team A scrimmage kick crosses the neutral zone.  It is muffed by B17 at the B-17.  B17 dives and bats the ball at the B-4 towards his own goal line:

Scenario 1 - the ball goes out of bounds at the 4 inch line (literally just to the field side of the pylon).

Scenario 2 - the ball goes out of the back/side of the end zone.

Scenario 3 - the ball comes to rest in the end zone and (3A) Team A falls on it or (3B) team B falls on it.

Scenario 4 - Lets say there is NO BAT, the ball just rolls into the end zone and either Team A or B falls on it (so, just the original muff by B17).

Here is what we came up with:

Scenario 1 -> This actually happened.  I put the ball at the 1 going out, Team B's ball.

Scenario 2 -> We discussed this as a safety.  Even though it is still a kick, according to 8-7-2 batting applies new impetus to the ball.  The Bat is the reason it is out of the back of the end zone, therefore it is a Safety because Team B batted it.

Scenario 3 ->  Because of the batting changing the impetus (8-7-2), if Team A recovers it- Touchdown, if Team B recovers it, Safety.

Scenario 4 -> Touchback/Touchdown depending on if B/A recovers it.

So, that is what we discussed.  Thoughts/opinions/comments?

Offline Andrew McCarthy

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Re: Batting of a Scrimmage Kick by Team B.
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2013, 01:32:39 PM »
I agree with what you have.

Offline Kalle

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Re: Batting of a Scrimmage Kick by Team B.
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2013, 01:41:47 PM »
A.R's 8-7-2-II and III are your scenarios 2-4, so there isn't much to discuss, IMO.

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Re: Batting of a Scrimmage Kick by Team B.
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2013, 02:34:32 PM »
Thanks Kalle for the AR reference!.  I completely overlook the AR's for Impetus (I did look at the AR for Kicks to try and find these).  Alas I need to get better at that.

Thanks :)