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Offline TXMike

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Trick Play
« on: December 18, 2013, 11:12:37 AM »
2d and 10 at the A-40.  A is in its standard spread formation.  WR on left (A's sideline) runs a deep post pattern and pass to him is incomplete at about the B-30.  As he jogs back upfield in the center of the field the rest of his team also gets back to the NZ to line up.  They are a no-huddle team. He eventually veers  to the outside and gets out  wide again, so wide that he is closer to the sideline than he is the numbers.  No subs come into the field of play.  No defender moves out to cover him.  QB has the ball snapped and throws the ball to that WR.  Legal or illegal?
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Re: Trick Play
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2013, 11:45:49 AM »
As long as he was between the numbers when the RFP was blown then I don't see how it can be illegal. Defense should be ready for him since that's where he was the last play
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Re: Trick Play
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2013, 12:28:02 PM »
+1  ^TD
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Re: Trick Play
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2013, 12:46:24 PM »
Is he making any getsures to simulate that he wants to be replaced? If not, I'd say its good
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Re: Trick Play
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2013, 01:15:45 PM »
Not illegal at all, regardless of where he was, unless as mentioned he indicated a sub.
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Offline Andrew McCarthy

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Re: Trick Play
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2013, 02:24:22 PM »
Sounds like a modernized and legal version of the now-banned hidden-man play.   aWaRd
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Re: Trick Play
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2013, 02:49:39 PM »
If team B cannot cover all 11 team A players, that's their problem. No foul.
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Re: Trick Play
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2013, 07:44:42 PM »
I'd have to agree that as described, with no subs on the play, we've got nothing.
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Re: Trick Play
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2013, 08:51:15 PM »
Shouldn't he be on his side of the NZ before RFP is blown?
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Re: Trick Play
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2013, 10:07:51 PM »
Quote from: Golfdock on December 18, 2013, 08:51:15 PM
Shouldn't he be on his side of the NZ before RFP is blown?
In this situation there would not be a RFP with a 40/25 clock.
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Re: Trick Play
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2013, 11:50:48 PM »
If I well understand, this is legal if after the previous play and before the snap he has been inside the 9-yard marks before he goes near the sideline. That's it?
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Re: Trick Play
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2013, 08:42:33 AM »
Quote from: Wingmanbp on December 18, 2013, 11:45:49 AM
As long as he was between the numbers when the RFP was blown then I don't see how it can be illegal. Defense should be ready for him since that's where he was the last play

In the absence of any timeout, a player who participated in the previous down does not have to be inside the nine-yard marks at/after the RFP.
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Re: Trick Play
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2013, 10:26:29 AM »
Quote from: Diablo on December 19, 2013, 08:42:33 AM
In the absence of any timeout, a player who participated in the previous down does not have to be inside the nine-yard marks at/after the RFP.
7-1-3-b
1.Each Team A substitute must have been between the nine-yard marks. Team A players who participated in the previous down must have been between the nine-yard marks after the previous down and before the next snap (A.R. 3-3-4-I).
2.All Team A players must have been between the nine-yard marks after a charged team timeout, an injury timeout, a media timeout or the end of a period.
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Re: Trick Play
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2013, 12:16:41 PM »
After the prev play (I.e. When ball is declared dead) but not after RFP
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Re: Trick Play
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2013, 12:39:33 PM »
In my mind this play is similar to the "midget" play, where one player crouches in the huddle and hides out behind the offensive line.
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