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El Macman

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10 second subtraction announcement
« on: July 17, 2011, 07:52:35 AM »
Another thing thrown at us during a recent on-field exercise was the new 10 second subtraction rule. Those leading the exercise didn't have any recommended announcement language, but threw that at us to impress upon us that we needed to think about it before the season started and develop and rehearse something before it actually happens and we stumble on it. They told us to include language that explained the option, and it should contain our new favorite expression, "By rule..."
So, after stumbling through it during the exercise, and much deliberation in the days since, I developed some language for the three scenarios possible with the 10 second subtraction.

Note: The strongly preferred expression is, indeed, "10 second subtraction." Don't make my mistake and use "run off" in your language related to this new rule.


10 SECOND SUBTRACTION ANNOUNCEMENT LANGUAGE

For a foul that occurs during the last minute of a half, following the penalty announcement, add one of the three following statements, as appropriate:

Time Subtraction Accepted
By rule, accepted penalties for fouls that cause the clock to stop during the last minute of the half also have the option of having 10 seconds subtracted from the game clock, and the clock will start on my signal. [offended team] has elected that option. Clock operator, please set the game clock to [time]; [time by digits]. (pause for clock to be set) Thank you.

Example:
“False start; 75; offense; 5-yard penalty, second down. By rule, accepted penalties for fouls that cause the clock to stop during the last minute of the half also have the option of having 10 seconds subtracted from the game clock, and the clock will start on my signal. State University has elected that option. Clock operator, please set the game clock to 47 seconds; zero, zero, four, seven. (pause for clock to be set) Thank you.”


Time Subtraction Declined
By rule, accepted penalties for fouls that cause the clock to stop during the last minute of the half also have the option of having 10 seconds subtracted from the game clock. However, [offended team] has declined that option. By rule, the clock will start on the snap.

Example:
“False start; 75; offense; 5-yard penalty, second down. By rule, accepted penalties for fouls that cause the clock to stop during the last minute of the half also have the option of having 10 seconds subtracted from the game clock. However, State University has declined that option. By rule, the clock will start on the snap.”


Time Out by Fouling Team to Avoid Time Subtraction
By rule, accepted penalties for fouls that cause the clock to stop during the last minute of the half also have the option of having 10 seconds subtracted from the game clock. However, [fouling team] will take a time out to avoid the time subtraction. Time out, [fouling team]. This is their [first] [second] [third and final] charged time out of the [first] [second] half. (If TV takes a time out add) [Time out.] (If on TV and they do not take a time out, add:)  [This a thirty second time out.]

Example:
“False start; 75; offense; 5-yard penalty, second down. By rule, accepted penalties for fouls that cause the clock to stop during the last minute of the half also have the option of having 10 seconds subtracted from the game clock. However, State University will take a time out to avoid the time subtraction. Time out, State University. This is their second charged time out of the second half. This a thirty second time out.”

Note: During the last minute of a half, TV would not likely take a timeout.


Penalty declined
If the offended team declines the distance penalty, then the 10 second subtraction is not an option, so there is no additional language needed. Just make your standard announcement. But, I can't imagine that ever happening.

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Re: 10 second subtraction announcement
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2011, 10:03:53 AM »
The April 26, 2011 CFO memo on "MECHANICS: 10-SECOND SUBTRACTION RULE" gives the announcement text as well.

The memo is also in this post: http://www.refstripes.com/forum/index.php?topic=7924.0

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Re: 10 second subtraction announcement
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2011, 10:25:54 AM »
I always try to be as brief as possible because the more complex the explanation, the more chance I'll just stumble and bumble around.

So maybe instead of using "By rule, accepted penalties for fouls that stop the clock to stop during the last .......",  how about something like "By rule, there will be a 10 second subtraction from the game clock, please set the game clock to ..........."

I really don't think we need to "teach" the rules in our announcements, but that's just me.  If others are comfortable in giving a complicated announcement with lots of explanations, go for it!   But, beware of the brain language farts!

sometimes K.I.S.S. is a good thing.
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Re: 10 second subtraction announcement
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2011, 01:37:01 PM »
Again, I don't necessarily disagree, but those leading the the exercise (hint, hint) were really insistent on giving a descriptive explanation, and the exercise covered accepted subtractions, declined subtractions, and times-out to avoid the subtraction. (And it also included mechanics for obtaining the offended team's choice, and then the fouling team's choice regarding taking a time out or not.) Your language might be OK for the accepted subtraction, but how do you announce the declined subtraction or time-out without explaining that the option existed to begin with? If every foul during the last minute of a half required the 10-second subtraction, then it would be easier. But the subtraction only applies to certain fouls. You are right, we aren't in the business of educating the masses on the finer points of the rules. But, aside from being new, this is something that will be unusual, and probably critical. We may be better served to give a good explanation than leave folks - especially those ever-so-helpful guys in the broadcast booth - wondering and/or speculating what the heck we're doing out there.
I'll be very interested to hear how others that are may be asked to participate in similar on-field exercises handle it, and what reaction the leaders have.



I always try to be as brief as possible because the more complex the explanation, the more chance I'll just stumble and bumble around.

So maybe instead of using "By rule, accepted penalties for fouls that stop the clock to stop during the last .......",  how about something like "By rule, there will be a 10 second subtraction form the game clock, please set the game clock to ..........."

I really don't think we need to "teach" the rules in our announcements, but that's just me.  If others are comfortable in giving a complicated announcement with lots of explanations, go for it!   But, beware of the brain language farts!

sometimes K.I.S.S. is a good thing.

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Re: 10 second subtraction announcement
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2011, 07:49:58 PM »
Again, I don't necessarily disagree, but those leading the the exercise (hint, hint) were really insistent on giving a descriptive explanation, and the exercise covered accepted subtractions, declined subtractions, and times-out to avoid the subtraction. (And it also included mechanics for obtaining the offended team's choice, and then the fouling team's choice regarding taking a time out or not.) Your language might be OK for the accepted subtraction, but how do you announce the declined subtraction or time-out without explaining that the option existed to begin with? If every foul during the last minute of a half required the 10-second subtraction, then it would be easier. But the subtraction only applies to certain fouls. You are right, we aren't in the business of educating the masses on the finer points of the rules. But, aside from being new, this is something that will be unusual, and probably critical. We may be better served to give a good explanation than leave folks - especially those ever-so-helpful guys in the broadcast booth - wondering and/or speculating what the heck we're doing out there.
I'll be very interested to hear how others that are may be asked to participate in similar on-field exercises handle it, and what reaction the leaders have.

The document on the CFO website that Hawkeye pointed to was pretty darn specific about the verbiage to be used. I guess those leading your exercise missed it.

It specifically used the words "10 second run-off" so clearly that is the preferred verbiage for referees to use. The exact announcements were quite succinct and still seemed to convey all necessary information.

Not sure why anyone feels the need to embellish.

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Re: 10 second subtraction announcement
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2011, 10:02:34 PM »
ElMac - I guess it's just that we don't explain the rules/options on other penalties.  One that comes to mind is PSK.  I doubt that many know the intricacies of that rule; or maybe clean hands too?  I'm sure there are others.

In my mind, just because it's new doesn't necessarily mean which should go into education mode.  I realize the CFO dictate is expansive - and easy to say in the confines of a meeting room - but on the field?

Anyway, ours is not to wonder why, as ours is just to do or die!

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Re: 10 second subtraction announcement
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2011, 11:19:26 PM »
I'm not in charge, so no one has to do anything I suggest. Just giving the value of my experience, and a preview of what to expect, to some folks that I know will be subject to the same on-field exercise in which I participated.
If it gets everyone thinking about this issue, mission accomplished.

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Re: 10 second subtraction announcement
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2011, 11:28:13 PM »
I'm not in charge, so no one has to do anything I suggest. Just giving the value of my experience, and a preview of what to expect, to some folks that I know will be subject to the same on-field exercise in which I participated.
If it gets everyone thinking about this issue, mission accomplished.

mission accomplished!  I'll let you know what my "instructions" are after the clinic this week - but, I will give my 2 cents to the powers to be - so far I'm out about $1.36 with no luck.  :)

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Re: 10 second subtraction announcement
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2011, 07:00:40 AM »
In practice, early in the season it will probably be good to "teach" a little, but I imagine by October, most everyone will have experienced the 10 second subtraction either in their game or will have seen it on TV and the explanation will really not be necessary.
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Re: 10 second subtraction announcement
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2011, 12:49:42 PM »
I always try to be as brief as possible because the more complex the explanation, the more chance I'll just stumble and bumble around.

So maybe instead of using "By rule, accepted penalties for fouls that stop the clock to stop during the last .......",  how about something like "By rule, there will be a 10 second subtraction from the game clock, please set the game clock to ..........."

I really don't think we need to "teach" the rules in our announcements, but that's just me.  If others are comfortable in giving a complicated announcement with lots of explanations, go for it!   But, beware of the brain language farts!

sometimes K.I.S.S. is a good thing.
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