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Offline TXMike

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Illegally Kicking Loose Ball on PAT
« on: October 30, 2013, 07:41:46 AM »
This week's CFO Video, Play 5

PAT attempt, bad snap, team A and B players are chasing the ball which is rolling far behind the LOS.  As they approach it, the B player's foot strikes the ball and propels it even further backwards.  Another B player picks it up and takes it in for the apparent score.  There is a flag down as crew believes the kick was intentional.  RR discusses the penalty enforcement and indicates that Team A cannot accept the penalty (to get a replay of the PAT down) but refuse the yardage.

Seems to me since Team A can elect to put the ball anywhere between the hashes on or behind the opponent’s 3 yard line on the initial try down, wouldn’t they have that same privilege after the penalty is accepted?  As soon as it is accepted , the penalty is completed. Then , as long as A tells the U where they want the ball placed before it is whistled ready for play, it seems A should be able to ask for it to be spotted at the 3 yard line.

What am I missing?

Offline Kalle

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Re: Illegally Kicking Loose Ball on PAT
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2013, 08:08:12 AM »
Rule 8-3-3-b-2 seems very much on point and allows team A to effectively decline any yardage penalty.

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Re: Illegally Kicking Loose Ball on PAT
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2013, 09:03:45 AM »
RR says on the video that the crew made this mistake but the R annouces the penalty will be enforced half the distance at the 3 yard line
So they got it right in theory but placed the ball at the 3 (although we don't see that in the video)

and yep, Kalle, pretty much on point as to placing the ball wherever A wants on or behind the yard line after the penalty...

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Re: Illegally Kicking Loose Ball on PAT
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2013, 02:45:37 PM »
What am I missing?

Nothing that I can find!  ???
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