A NFL "Don't try this at home" rule????

[Ralph Damren]

Every year at my preseason meetings with coaches, I have a "Don't try this at home" segment. Situations in other codes that don't apply to NFHS (no tackle box, no uncatchable pass,etc.). I may have seen another last night.

Situation : 0:05 left in first half - Pat's ball, 4th down, own 25.
Play : In lieu of punting under adverse conditions, Brady fades back in pocket and uncorks a long, high pass that falls harmlessly OOB as half ended. There didn't appear to be any eligible receivers in the same time zone . Our 7-5-2d would have kicked in and LOD would have turned the ball over to the Broncos.
Of course 3-3-4b(3) wouldn't allow an untimed down but, where many coaches are members of Patriot Nation, and many would be watching what I was, the question would arise.

A question (not a gripe) but ,when the clock was stopped by Denver to replace an injured player, didn't the clock continue to run, AND when the referee explained the excessive time out rule, didn't he say :" Please reset the game clock to 40 seconds."  I don't believe that ever happened ....

[BrendanP]

Eh, I was more upset about the dumpster fire that was the secondary and the fact that on the possession at the end where it mattered the most, the offensive line was as useless as a wet Kleenex.

[Kalle]

Was Brady under duress when he threw the ball or did he just decide that "what the HECK, let's end this"? If the latter, then I think it was a correct call in NFL and NCAA.

Edit: watched the play, good no call, the QB is allowed to throw the ball away if he is not under duress.

[HLinNC]

The whole "excess timeout"made absolutely no sense.  So what if another Bronco went down?  Double excess timeout- the Broncos lose a timeout in their next game???

There is no way the Broncos wanted the clock stopped on purpose.  They wanted Brady to have as little time as possible.  I don't remember if the clock was running prior to the injury but if it was, then the normal protocol of starting the clock after the injured player was removed from the field would make sense.  As to the 40 second play clock restarting, it was of no benefit to New England as they didn't want to use it up since the game clock was running.

All a bunch of made up gobbley-gook that the NFL has devolved into.  That crew did NOT have its best game last night.

[brettdj]

I had to look up the excess timeout rule this morning.  They were correct.

ARTICLE 4. INJURY TIMEOUTS AFTER TWO-MINUTE WARNING OF EITHER HALF. After the two-minute warning of a
half, the following shall apply:
(a) If a team has not used its three charged team timeouts, the team of the injured player will be charged a team timeout,
unless:
(1) the injury is the result of a foul by an opponent
(2) the injury occurs during a down in which there is a change of possession, a touchdown, a safety, a successful field
goal, or an attempted Try
(b) If a team has used its three charged team timeouts, an excess team timeout shall be called by the Referee, unless:
(1) the injury is the result of a foul by an opponent
(2) the injury occurs during a down in which there is a change of possession, a touchdown, a safety, a successful field
goal, or an attempted Try
(c) The player must leave the game for the completion of one down, unless:
(1) the injury is the result of a foul by an opponent
(2) either team calls a charged team timeout
Penalty: For the second and each subsequent excess team timeout after the two-minute warning: Loss of five yards
from the succeeding spot for delay of the game.

[AlUpstateNY]

As a life long Giant fan, alternating between aggravating disappointment and wild jubilation, I've come to accept, when the game FULLY ends, and no matter what the reasons, when the opponent has scored more points than my Giants, we lost.

For all sorts of reasons, it seems not even all the Kings men and all the Kings horses, just don't seem able to reverse that outcome, so the only sane thing to do is focus on "next week".

[goodgrr]

A question (not a gripe) but ,when the clock was stopped by Denver to replace an injured player, didn't the clock continue to run, AND when the referee explained the excessive time out rule, didn't he say :" Please reset the game clock to 40 seconds."  I don't believe that ever happened ....

Correctly administered it seems:

http://nesn.com/2015/11/dean-blandino-clock-administered-correctly-on-patriots-final-regulation-drive/

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-gameday/0ap3000000591284/Blandino-Clock-was-administered-correctly

[BrendanP]

As for the excess timeout thing, I can't help but wonder how well a ten-second add-on would be received. As Denver had no timeouts, would it be fair to put ten seconds back on the clock if the team that's leading and has no timeouts has an injured player, in the same way that ten seconds come off the clock if the team that's trailing has an injured player?

[TxBJ]

A question (not a gripe) but ,when the clock was stopped by Denver to replace an injured player, didn't the clock continue to run, AND when the referee explained the excessive time out rule, didn't he say :" Please reset the game clock to 40 seconds."  I don't believe that ever happened ....

No. He said to reset the PLAY clock to 40.

[Ralph Damren]

No. He said to reset the PLAY clock to 40.

I hold a "celebration" of a shot of American Honey (Wild Turkey & honey)  with every Patriot TD . Alcohol may have been a contributing factor in hearing PLAY but thinking GAME.....

[Bwest]

The whole "excess timeout"made absolutely no sense.  So what if another Bronco went down?  Double excess timeout- the Broncos lose a timeout in their next game???

There is no way the Broncos wanted the clock stopped on purpose.  They wanted Brady to have as little time as possible.  I don't remember if the clock was running prior to the injury but if it was, then the normal protocol of starting the clock after the injured player was removed from the field would make sense.  As to the 40 second play clock restarting, it was of no benefit to New England as they didn't want to use it up since the game clock was running.

All a bunch of made up gobbley-gook that the NFL has devolved into.  That crew did NOT have its best game last night.

What a stupid rule this is. So, if Denver has timeouts, they are forced to take one for the injury and the clock would start on the snap. But because they are OUT of timeouts, they get to have the clock run on the ready. Unless of course it's the second time, then there is a 5 yard foul and the clock goes back to running on the snap.

So the clock will run on the snap on every case, unless the team has no timeouts AND it's the FIRST injury.

[centexsports]

The purpose of the rule is to not allow the defense to fake an injury and gain an advantage if they are behind by the clock stopping.   By resetting the play clock to 40 sec the offense can run down the game clock before snapping.   If the offense is behind, they should be at the LOS and ready to snap the ball at the ready.   NE should have known the rule and been ready.

[HLinNC]

NE should have known the rule and been ready

What?  Darth Hoodie, the everloving genius of football DIDN'T know something.  Holy Crap.

[Bwest]

The purpose of the rule is to not allow the defense to fake an injury and gain an advantage if they are behind by the clock stopping.   By resetting the play clock to 40 sec the offense can run down the game clock before snapping.   If the offense is behind, they should be at the LOS and ready to snap the ball at the ready.   NE should have known the rule and been ready.

Why not make the rule like college, where the clock status is at the discretion of the offended team?