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Offline bctgp

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Holder Movement on FG/PAT Scrimmage Kick
« on: October 26, 2021, 11:46:38 PM »
When a team is in legal scrimmage kick formation for a kick attempt on a FG or PAT.  Can the holder receive the snap while standing then go down to one knee to hold the ball down for the kicker to kick?

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Re: Holder Movement on FG/PAT Scrimmage Kick
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2021, 10:11:54 AM »
Yes.  4-1-3-b-Exception allows the ball to remain alive when held for a place kick. It does not specify that the holder must be already 'grounded' when he takes possession of the ball. Although difficult, it would be totally legal for a player to take a "shotgun" snap while upright, then drop to the ground to hold the ball for a kicker. But, AT THE SNAP there must be a player in position to make a kick for the ball to then remain alive when when held by a 'grounded' player. After that, the ball may be place kicked, but it doesn't have to be kicked at all. The potential kicker can fake a kick attempt, or not. Regardless, the ball may be handed/passed while he is still on the ground, or he can rise and advance the ball, or punt it, or drop kick it, or then hand/pass it.
We have all probably seen a bad snap that forced the holder to rise up and catch the ball, then drop back to the ground to hold it for the kicker. All good.

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Re: Holder Movement on FG/PAT Scrimmage Kick
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2021, 01:01:33 PM »
Last week I saw one for the books ....

False start on the kicker ....Leaning forward, off count, flagged, then his number called for the penalty.