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Offline ElvisLives

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Rule Changes Video from Shaw on Arbiter
« on: May 13, 2022, 10:45:48 AM »
Well, for those that don't subscribe to the Arbiter CFO site, you won't miss much of anything in the Rules Changes Video posted yesterday. Pretty much just Shaw reading the wording of the rules changes press release. A little bit of video related to Blocking Below the Waist, but nothing essential. Bottom line: You're not really missing anything.

Somebody truly needs to inquire about what is "the initial charge" of linemen (Team A and Team B), with respect to BBW. A single straight line charge? Directly forward? Charging in a straight line, but at an angle to the sideline OK? Changing direction during the charge OK? Does the charge have to be immediately after the snap? Is a delayed charge OK (i.e., just holding in a stance for some amount of time, then charging toward an opponent)? Rising from a 3 or 4 point stance, or from an elbows on knees stance, to an upright position, while charging forward, then diving to make contact below the waist OK?

The first one to get affirmitive answers from Shaw or an FBS coordinator wins the Kewpie doll, and my gratitude (the doll is probably worth a lot more).
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Re: Rule Changes Video from Shaw on Arbiter
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2022, 02:55:57 PM »
It appears Mr. Shaw may be keeping his word and bringing the NCAA BBW rule (albeit not completely) more in line with the NFHS BBW Rule.  While NCAA will, NFHS does not allow a stationary back to BBW.
Several NFHS training videos provide examples of the intent of ..."immediate, initial action following the snap."
I suggest the 2021 NFHS BBW training film created by the Arizona State Rules Interpreter.
« Last Edit: May 15, 2022, 03:11:42 PM by KWH »
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Re: Rule Changes Video from Shaw on Arbiter
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2022, 08:09:16 PM »
During the clinic this weekend he said that if a lineman comes out of his stance and drops back to pass block, he has gone beyond the "initial line charge".  He'd have to block in the front as long as him and the ball are in the tackle box.
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Re: Rule Changes Video from Shaw on Arbiter
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2022, 08:34:42 PM »
Quote from: JasonTX on May 15, 2022, 08:09:16 PM
During the clinic this weekend he said that if a lineman comes out of his stance and drops back to pass block, he has gone beyond the "initial line charge".  He'd have to block in the front as long as him and the ball are in the tackle box.

I don’t think anyone wondered about that. That is clearly not the ‘initial charge.’ But, what about a delayed initial charge? What about a charge made at angle toward a sideline (not directly forward)? What about a lineman who charges ahead, then changes direction to aim at an opponent? There may be other situations, too. We need direction.
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Re: Rule Changes Video from Shaw on Arbiter
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2022, 04:59:43 PM »
I have the SEC supe video on this and it’s very good.


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Re: Rule Changes Video from Shaw on Arbiter
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2022, 10:04:02 PM »
Quote from: TxSkyBolt on May 18, 2022, 04:59:43 PM
I have the SEC supe video on this and it’s very good.


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Yeah, I saw that, and it IS good for the things he discussed. But, he didn’t address what is “initial charge.”  We need answers to that.
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