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Offline Stinterp

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LSU/Florida State ending
« on: September 05, 2022, 11:19:33 AM »
Was the timing handled correctly at the end of the LSU/Florida State game?

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Re: LSU/Florida State ending
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2022, 12:21:42 PM »
I'm no replay expert but I think it was.  Whereas normally there would be a zap 10 because replay created a running clock (after determining that the runner was down inbounds, overturning the ruling on the field) that did not apply because the line to gain had been reached, which automatically stops the clock.

The only thing I thought might have been off, was one second left vs 2, but irrelevant as only one play could be run.  I do know that the clock on the TV is not the official time, which is probably why it was a discrepancy.

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Re: LSU/Florida State ending
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2022, 03:05:42 PM »
Handled perfectly.
No dog in that hunt - couldn’t care less which team wins any game. But I thought that was the coolest end to a game, ever. You talk about ebb and flow of emotions over a 2 minute (game time) period… Then to have it end with a blocked FG on a try to tie the game. With everybody already setting up for an extra period. Wow.  So cooooool.

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Re: LSU/Florida State ending
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2022, 04:00:38 PM »
Was the timing handled correctly at the end of the LSU/Florida State game?

Sort of. Beyond the runner being down inbounds, which would have ended the game before the snap if ruled correctly, the biggest mistake was the play is not reviewable. See Instant Replay Casebook Play 154 (the answer for that play is incorrect per 2022 IR Memo, but the explanation is correct and tells us this is not reviewable due to the 1st down).

They should have denied Florida State's challenge, left the clock at :01 and started the clock on the snap since it was ruled out of bounds. In the end, that's exactly what they did with the time, but only after a really long replay delay that shouldn't have occurred.

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Re: LSU/Florida State ending
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2022, 04:04:33 PM »
^this makes sense…I’m not a college official, but it seemed strange that even though replay found the call on the field incorrect nothing changed. The clock still started on the snap rather than the wind.

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Re: LSU/Florida State ending
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2022, 06:38:46 PM »
FSU did call a subsequent timeout before the RFP so the game clock would have started on the snap either way.

One minor housekeeping detail, as this was a coach’s challenge, (assuming replay did accept this as a reviewable play) the announcement lacked the detail that FSU retains their timeout and challenge (or lost it and charged a timeout).

One side note, if the clock ran out, with video evidence showing 2 seconds on the clock with the knee down inbounds for a first down, the game would have been over due to 12-6-d-2 requiring 3 seconds to remain on the clock after an overturn and the clock starting on the RFP.

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Re: LSU/Florida State ending
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2022, 10:22:26 PM »
“FSU did call a subsequent timeout before the RFP so the game clock would have started on the snap either way.”

I can’t imagine FSU would call a TO if the clock was going to start with one second remaining on the whistle. The R announced after the review that “LSU will have one play” (or something to that affect). I took that to mean that the game clock would start on the snap.
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Re: LSU/Florida State ending
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2022, 10:52:10 PM »
Help me understand what would have happened if the initial call had been “down inbounds.”

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Re: LSU/Florida State ending
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2022, 08:32:14 AM »
Help me understand what would have happened if the initial call had been “down inbounds.”

LSU was out of time outs to stop the clock or challenge, so :01 on the clock, wind it on the ready = game over.

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Re: LSU/Florida State ending
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2022, 09:40:54 AM »
Sort of. Beyond the runner being down inbounds, which would have ended the game before the snap if ruled correctly, the biggest mistake was the play is not reviewable. See Instant Replay Casebook Play 154 (the answer for that play is incorrect per 2022 IR Memo, but the explanation is correct and tells us this is not reviewable due to the 1st down).

They should have denied Florida State's challenge, left the clock at :01 and started the clock on the snap since it was ruled out of bounds. In the end, that's exactly what they did with the time, but only after a really long replay delay that shouldn't have occurred.

Winner winner chicken dinner!  Exactly what Dean Blandino said.