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zarganis

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Beating the ball
« on: November 07, 2012, 05:44:16 AM »
In the section at the beginning of the NCAA rulebook there is a bit about 'Beating the ball'. Has any official out ever caught a team doing it? What do you look for to enforce this? Do teams really do it?
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Re: Beating the ball
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2012, 08:24:53 AM »
Yep still coached, just watch pulling guards and tackles.
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Re: Beating the ball
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2012, 10:28:07 AM »
Think it's called a false start.  ;)
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Re: Beating the ball
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2012, 02:02:20 AM »
And I was looking for something more
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Re: Beating the ball
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2012, 12:59:02 PM »
Quote from: Rulesman on November 07, 2012, 10:28:07 AM
Think it's called a false start.  ;)

I disagree. If it is intentional and goes against The Football Code, then a case can potentially be made for unsportsmanlike conduct. This is similar, in my opinion, to other penalties that escalate from 5-yarders to UNC's due to intent. That's why I asked the question--I would like to know how to distinguish between a normal FST and 'Beating the Ball'.
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Re: Beating the ball
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2012, 07:23:03 PM »
How are you going to determine "intentional?"
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Re: Beating the ball
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2012, 08:58:19 AM »
An example would be the QB yelling SETHUT to snap the ball and the entire OL moves on SET and the center snaps on HUT?
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Re: Beating the ball
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2012, 04:01:22 PM »
But then doesn't that just look like a false start from a twitchy line?
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Re: Beating the ball
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2012, 08:11:58 PM »
Quote from: Osric Pureheart on November 09, 2012, 04:01:22 PM
But then doesn't that just look like a false start from a twitchy line?
Bingo!
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Re: Beating the ball
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2012, 08:35:34 AM »
...so why the concern about beating the ball in the rulebook, if it just looks like a false start and we call it as a false start and they don't get any advantage from it?  This isn't sprinting, we haven't got the O-line in blocks that can detect them reacting before the B of the bang.
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