What would NFHS Rule be?

[fcardon@sbcglobal.net]

In the included clip, watch the second play.  What would the ruling be in high school?

https://youtu.be/0e-1Uvx-wLE?si=dDegDENbSVrsCGum

[GA Umpire]

In the included clip, watch the second play.  What would the ruling be in high school?

https://youtu.be/0e-1Uvx-wLE?si=dDegDENbSVrsCGum

The ruling would be the same, SAFETY.

8-5-2b
8.5.2 Situation B

[fcardon@sbcglobal.net]

But look at 8.5.3 situation A

and rule 8.5.3c

8-5-2b refers to forcing the ball over their own goal line.  This play forces the ball over the opponents goal line.  Therefore "Touchback".

[GA Umpire]

But look at 8.5.3 situation A

and rule 8.5.3c

8-5-2b refers to forcing the ball over their own goal line.  This play forces the ball over the opponents goal line.  Therefore "Touchback".

The Receiving Team did not possess the ball at any time that I can see in the video.  The ball was loose at all times, so it is a muff.
Safety.

[fcardon@sbcglobal.net]

There was no receiving team.  No kick was involved.

[CalhounLJ]

In NFHS a new force can be added to a grounded fumble, which is what this was. B put the ball into the end zone, and so A is awarded a touchback.

[Ralph Damren]

Once the ball was fumbled, I didn't see any muffs by A until the ball reached the EZ = touchback.

[Fatso]

Once the ball was fumbled, I didn't see any muffs by A until the ball reached the EZ = touchback.

Is that a safety in NCAA or did the officials get it wrong?

[bama_stripes]

FED: I have a TB.  The ball was never going to go into A’s EZ with the initial force of the fumble.  It was B’s muff(s) that provided such force.

[bossman72]

Is that a safety in NCAA or did the officials get it wrong?

Safety in NCAA.  Muffs cannot add force/impetus in NCAA unless the ball is completely motionless.

[Fatso]

Safety in NCAA.  Muffs cannot add force/impetus in NCAA unless the ball is completely motionless.

Interesting.... thx.