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Overtime Rules Interpretation
« on: September 11, 2023, 03:52:55 PM »
I might be looking at last years book (2020 actually) but was curious as to what situation a ruling could be talking about.  On page 86 (Overtime Section) it speaks in rule 5-3-1, and says, "if a safety is scored by an offensive team...." 

How can this be in OT when, once possession changes, the series is over?  B has to have possession in order for A to score a safety...right? 

I guess A could fumble, the ball is going toward the sideline, and B, in an attempt to recover, forces the ball into its own end zone?   Is this what they mean?

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Re: Overtime Rules Interpretation
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2023, 04:07:33 PM »
I might be looking at last years book (2020 actually) but was curious as to what situation a ruling could be talking about.  On page 86 (Overtime Section) it speaks in rule 5-3-1, and says, "if a safety is scored by an offensive team...." 

How can this be in OT when, once possession changes, the series is over?  B has to have possession in order for A to score a safety...right? 

I guess A could fumble, the ball is going toward the sideline, and B, in an attempt to recover, forces the ball into its own end zone?   Is this what they mean?
Yes, that's it. If B puts a new force on the ball, causing it to go into their endzone, A would be awarded a safety.

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Re: Overtime Rules Interpretation
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2023, 08:15:04 AM »
A simular situation exsists on PATs. If a loose ball is nearly at rest or rolling away from the goal line and muffed by B back into their EZ where it becomes dead or in possession of B= safety = one point.
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Re: Overtime Rules Interpretation
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2023, 06:03:56 PM »
Also, make sure that you know your individual states OT (extra Period) rules as they may be different from what is [size=78%]the NFHS suggested OT rules.[/size]
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Re: Overtime Rules Interpretation
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2023, 02:28:37 PM »
Also, make sure that you know your individual states OT (extra Period) rules as they may be different from what is [size=78%]the NFHS suggested OT rules.[/size]
State of Ohio says, A may score by FG, TD, or Try ONLY.

Apparently no safety for us.

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Re: Overtime Rules Interpretation
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2023, 04:22:06 PM »
NFHS OT framework indicates in 5-1-3, a safety would be scored.

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Re: Overtime Rules Interpretation
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2023, 09:07:32 AM »
Also, make sure that you know your individual states OT (extra Period) rules as they may be different from what is [size=78%]the NFHS suggested OT rules.[/size]

I think this is a different topic/situation Mr. Ralph, but we are taught to believe that once a PAT is kicked, the play is over....wait...you're talking about a fumble or bad snap aren't you.

The 1 point you speak of....is that in the NFHS book or a state by state ruling?

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Re: Overtime Rules Interpretation
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2023, 09:33:31 AM »
I think this is a different topic/situation Mr. Ralph, but we are taught to believe that once a PAT is kicked, the play is over....wait...you're talking about a fumble or bad snap aren't you.

The 1 point you speak of....is that in the NFHS book or a state by state ruling?
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Re: Overtime Rules Interpretation
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2023, 01:42:30 PM »
I think this is a different topic/situation Mr. Ralph, but we are taught to believe that once a PAT is kicked, the play is over....wait...you're talking about a fumble or bad snap aren't you.

The 1 point you speak of....is that in the NFHS book or a state by state ruling?

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