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Offline Derek Teigen

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I am in the rule book on page 65 table 7-5.  Why is their a difference in the penalty enforcement spots for ineligible downfield (previous spot) vs illegal touching by ineligible ( basic spot)?

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Re: Ineligible Downfield penalty spot vs illegal Touching by Ineligible..
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2019, 12:05:58 PM »
Because illegal touching can happen either beyond or behind the basic spot. Basic spot is previous spot, so if it's touched beyond that, we go back to the basic spot, which is previous spot. If it's touched behind the basic spot, it becomes a spot foul. All-but-one.
Ineligible downfield can only happen during a loose-ball-play. It will always be enforced from the basic spot, which is the previous spot.

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Re: Ineligible Downfield penalty spot vs illegal Touching by Ineligible..
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2019, 12:15:18 PM »
NVM
« Last Edit: August 29, 2019, 12:19:12 PM by SCHSref »
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Re: Ineligible Downfield penalty spot vs illegal Touching by Ineligible..
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2019, 12:17:44 PM »
thanks Calhoun.    Am I correct then that if a covered receiver touches or catches a forward pass behind the los that the penalty would be enforced from where the player caught the ball?  Same for linemen who might catch a ball behind the LOS?  And on that point?  If the forward pass is deflected by the defense an offensive lineman can catch the ball and run with it, correct?
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Re: Ineligible Downfield penalty spot vs illegal Touching by Ineligible..
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2019, 12:19:51 PM »
thanks Calhoun.    Am I correct then that if a covered receiver touches or catches a forward pass behind the los that the penalty would be enforced from where the player caught the ball?  Same for linemen who might catch a ball behind the LOS?  And on that point?  If the forward pass is deflected by the defense an offensive lineman can catch the ball and run with it, correct?
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Re: Ineligible Downfield penalty spot vs illegal Touching by Ineligible..
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2019, 12:20:31 PM »
all that is correct

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Re: Ineligible Downfield penalty spot vs illegal Touching by Ineligible..
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2019, 12:22:04 PM »
ok thanks Calhoun and SCHSref.  Appreciate it.

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Re: Ineligible Downfield penalty spot vs illegal Touching by Ineligible..
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2019, 08:08:31 PM »
thanks Calhoun.    Am I correct then that if a covered receiver touches or catches a forward pass behind the los that the penalty would be enforced from where the player caught the ball?  Same for linemen who might catch a ball behind the LOS?  And on that point?  If the forward pass is deflected by the defense an offensive lineman can catch the ball and run with it, correct?
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Also note that if a lineman commits illegal touching, and there are no eligible receivers in the area, you can also have intentional grounding.  This is probably a big yardage difference between the two fouls, so be sure to note if you have eligibles around when a lineman catches the pass.

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Re: Ineligible Downfield penalty spot vs illegal Touching by Ineligible..
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2019, 02:11:57 PM »
thanks Bossman.  That's good stuff.