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Offline Patrick E.

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Re: Personnal Fouls - Penalty Enforcements
« Reply #25 on: August 09, 2019, 01:32:25 PM »
But the research from the higher levels and the experimental states concludes that most believe it makes the game better. I see no reason to keep it away from the high school game.

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The 40/25 provides consistency within the game, and consistency from one game to the next game.  That makes the game better for the teams.

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« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2019, 02:13:49 PM »
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The 40/25 provides consistency within the game, and consistency from one game to the next game.  That makes the game better for the teams.

Once the referees realize they don't have to blow their whistle as much they'll LOVE it!

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Re: Personnal Fouls - Penalty Enforcements
« Reply #27 on: August 09, 2019, 02:49:09 PM »
I honestly have never thought I blew my whistle too much. I certainly hope that was not a factor in the decision making process. 


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« Reply #28 on: August 09, 2019, 02:51:59 PM »
Anytime something new comes along there is always a little panic.  Nobody wants to screw up and look bad.  As I have told coaches, parents, and friends that I have spoken to, there will surely be some glitches by all of us: coaches, officials, chain crews, clock operators and ball boys.

I think we expect too much out of the NFHS sometimes.  They do not have a dedicated staff to rules and officials like NCAA/CFO and thus the "sausage" is a little harder to make.  It took several years to beat the horse collar tackle into submission and it will take some time for those of us who didn't participate under the play clock experiment to get it 100%.  There will be squalling and griping from coaches and fans but why should today be any different?

Scrimmages start tomorrow in NC.  We also get our turn to experiment this year with allowing a spike from shotgun to stop the clock.

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Re: Personnal Fouls - Penalty Enforcements
« Reply #29 on: August 09, 2019, 03:53:43 PM »
I honestly have never thought I blew my whistle too much. I certainly hope that was not a factor in the decision making process. 


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It's the RFP whistle. You likely blow it 120-140 times per game. With a 40-second play clock you may only blow it 50-60. That's a lot less pounding on the ears. I doubt it was any factor in any decisions, but the referees I have talked with have said it's been a nice side benefit.

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Re: Personnal Fouls - Penalty Enforcements
« Reply #30 on: August 10, 2019, 01:35:42 PM »
A lot of changes get made that aren't "do or die." NFHS would have been just fine without the 40-second clock. But the research from the higher levels and the experimental states concludes that most believe it makes the game better. I see no reason to keep it away from the high school game. Your constant patronizing reminders about whom NFHS rules are written for are not really relevant to why there should or shouldn't be a 40-second clock. The game evolves. Either we evolve with it or we get out.

Unfortunate, that you consider reminders about relevant differences between the DRAMATICALLY different (Maturity & Physical Capability) levels of participants at the various levels of Football, as patronizing, but the reality is, they are significantly different.  Improving the game, as well as the safety of the participants, is absolutely a laudable objective.  However, "Improvement" much like "Beauty" is very often, "in the eye of the beholder".

Much can be learned from higher levels of execution, but each of those levels hold much higher value in specific, valid objectives, that may not be as relevant, or necessary, to what amounts to the "basic (learning) level of a very complex, demanding and rewarding game. Evolving differences in the overall game of Football, designed specifically to address circumstances and objectives to benefit higher levels, DO NOT AUTOMATICALLY translate as well, or as necessary, to the Interscholastic level. (Which is why so many subtle differences currently exist)

As suggested, "TIME WILL TELL" whether the 40 second clock, and all the associated necessities and requirements to transport this capability will benefit, and/or improve Interscholastic level football. 

The game does evolve, the choices you suggest ("evolve with it or we get out") should also include a 3rd option of carefully deciding, and assessing, if adopting a solution from higher play levels is BETTER for the needs of the Interscholastic level, and whether the overall changes necessary to support the plan are worth the anticipated benefit rather than simply mimicking what, may address well, objectives and necessities far more unique to progressively higher levels.