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Offline Ralph Damren

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Turn that umpire around!!!!
« on: July 01, 2015, 09:47:00 AM »
  sNiCkErS .Read new case 10.2.5C (page 97). My way of thinking is 4th & 18 back at A's 45....what's yours..... ??? ??? :sTiR: :sTiR: :sTiR: :sTiR:
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Re: Turn that umpire around!!!!
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2015, 09:57:27 AM »
Can you provide the case?  I won't get my books until next month.
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Re: Turn that umpire around!!!!
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2015, 10:13:32 AM »
*10.2.5 C : On third and 8 from B's 45-yard line, runner A1 falls to the ground as he goes out of bounds at B's 40. B1 piles on. A2 then punches B2. The covering official indicates the foul s by both B1 and A2. The coach A then insults the game official for calling the foul on A2.   RULING : The distance penalties for B1's dead-ball foul and A2's punch cancel. The unsportsmanlike foul against the coach of A will be enforced with a 15-yard penalty, giving A a first and 10 from B's 25. A2 shall be disqualified for fighting. (9-4-1;9-4-3c;
9-8-1c;10-2-5b;10-4-4)
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Re: Turn that umpire around!!!!
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2015, 11:17:06 AM »
Either that or the UNS was suppose to be on Coach from B.
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Re: Turn that umpire around!!!!
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2015, 12:10:21 PM »
The only way it can be 1/10 at B-25 is for the UNS foul to be on B's coach. What am I missing? Probably nothing, but the proof-reading committee did.  nAnA
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Re: Turn that umpire around!!!!
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2015, 12:41:55 PM »
If coach of B insulted the official for calling the foul on A2, we have a very confused coach :o ???
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Re: Turn that umpire around!!!!
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2015, 12:54:31 PM »
Quote from: Ralph Damren on July 01, 2015, 09:47:00 AM
My way of thinking is 4th & 18 back at A's 45....what's yours..... ??? ??? :sTiR: :sTiR: :sTiR: :sTiR:

That's what I have, Ralph.....

Is Referee Magazine now writing the Case Book for NF? hEaDbAnG
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Re: Turn that umpire around!!!!
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2015, 12:57:40 PM »
I agree - 4th and 18.  NFHS really botched the editing up for this one!!!
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Re: Turn that umpire around!!!!
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2015, 02:02:46 PM »
One way or the other, the case play is wrong.

Did they get the yard line and down wrong, or did they get the coach wrong?
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Re: Turn that umpire around!!!!
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2015, 03:20:29 PM »
They got it ALL wrong!  pi1eOn
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Re: Turn that umpire around!!!!
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2015, 05:46:39 PM »
CLEARLY, it meant to read that B2 punched A2 and then A's coach insults the officials because he knows that his kids wouldn't just take a punch and not retaliate, so clearly you... and I'm quoting here... "blind *bleeping* *bleeps* aren't watching the game" and missed his own kids fighting back.

That's the only logical explanation.
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Re: Turn that umpire around!!!!
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2015, 05:53:30 PM »
Quote from: ncwingman on July 02, 2015, 05:46:39 PM
CLEARLY, it meant to read that B2 punched A2 and then A's coach insults the officials because he knows that his kids wouldn't just take a punch and not retaliate, so clearly you... and I'm quoting here... "blind *bleeping* *bleeps* aren't watching the game" and missed his own kids fighting back.

That's the only logical explanation.
But that STILL doesn't give A a 1&10 at the 25. 
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Re: Turn that umpire around!!!!
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2015, 06:55:10 PM »
Quote from: Atlanta Blue on July 02, 2015, 05:53:30 PM
But that STILL doesn't give A a 1&10 at the 25. 

It wouldn't? It'd be 2 dead ball PFs on B, and 1 on A -- same if the got the coach wrong.
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Re: Turn that umpire around!!!!
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2015, 07:00:41 PM »
Quote from: ncwingman on July 02, 2015, 06:55:10 PM
It wouldn't? It'd be 2 dead ball PFs on B, and 1 on A -- same if the got the coach wrong.
Read you post.

CLEARLY, it meant to read that B2 punched A2  - PF on B
and then A's coach insults the officials  - USC on A
missed his own kids fighting back. - PF on A

That's 2 fouls on A, one on B.  We're backing up.
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Re: Turn that umpire around!!!!
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2015, 12:21:26 PM »
Quote from: Atlanta Blue on July 02, 2015, 07:00:41 PM
Read you post.

CLEARLY, it meant to read that B2 punched A2  - PF on B
and then A's coach insults the officials  - USC on A
missed his own kids fighting back. - PF on A

That's 2 fouls on A, one on B.  We're backing up.

We'd still have the late hit on B1 -- PF on B
Then B2 punches A1 -- PF on B
Then A's coach berates the officials for "missing" a call on his own team -- PF on A

Sorry if it wasn't clear, but the joke (which is ruined now...) was that A DIDN'T fight back, but A's coach was in such disbelief that his team kept their cool that he got an UNS yelling at the officials about it.
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