Author Topic: Targeting reversal in Texas A&M @ Ole Miss game (Read 14045 times)

SouthGARef · « **on:** October 13, 2013, 06:00:42 PM »

Wasn't a real fan of the reversal here, does anybody have the capabilities of getting video? Believe it happened in the third quarter.

TXMike · « **Reply #1 on:** October 13, 2013, 07:07:48 PM »

This one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Sen08GFF3Y

or this one: http://youtu.be/YB0HOSNw98M

bama_stripes · « **Reply #2 on:** October 13, 2013, 08:10:19 PM »

The one in the first quarter really surprised me, especially when the defender's first reaction was an "Oh CRAP" expression.

SouthGARef · « **Reply #3 on:** October 13, 2013, 08:23:42 PM »

I was speaking of the first one. Sorry I got the time stamp wrong. I just don't see how that can be reversed.

Andrew McCarthy · « **Reply #4 on:** October 14, 2013, 07:58:37 AM »

I found it hard to believe they could reverse it. The more I see on targeting, the less I understand it.

Sonofanump · « **Reply #5 on:** October 14, 2013, 08:17:43 AM »

IDK. Looks pretty evident to me.

Aussie-Zebra · « **Reply #6 on:** October 14, 2013, 11:16:20 AM »

Ejection for both - I see no mitigating circumstances here - they both launched.

Magician · « **Reply #7 on:** October 14, 2013, 07:03:28 PM »

I don't understand the reversal on the first one. The second one makes sense because it looks like he intended to wrap up, realized the ball was thrown so tried to hold up, but still made contact. I would have no foul on the second one, but can see why the R threw it.

Cowman52 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 14, 2013, 09:00:08 PM »

Seems to me the IR official(s) are really intent on keeping players in the game. When this started I was expecting a number of ejections, and even at HS level they have not come to pass.
Would like to see the official count, but seems to be less than expected.

TXMike · « **Reply #9 on:** October 15, 2013, 04:35:01 AM »

I thought there would be fewer targeting calls in HS since the penalty is so severe and there is no way to verify you got it right. No hard factual data but anecdotally it does seem there have been fewer targeting calls.

StudyingFutureZebra · « **Reply #10 on:** October 18, 2013, 10:22:10 AM »

Good call by the replay official in both of them. The first one, the player led with a shoulder and met at the shoulder, and the second one may be roughing the passer, but absolutely not targeting.

BankerRef · « **Reply #11 on:** October 18, 2013, 11:10:17 AM »

A lack of consistency especially in the IR booth will contribute greatly to the confusion regarding the rule. I know A&M has to be confused after the explanation issued on the Everett DQ that was upheld in the Rice game.

Welpe · « **Reply #12 on:** October 18, 2013, 02:23:15 PM »

Quote from: StudyingFutureZebra on October 18, 2013, 10:22:10 AM

Good call by the replay official in both of them. The first one, the player led with a shoulder and met at the shoulder,

Look at where his helmet goes, he hits him in the chin with his helmet.

Cowman52 · « **Reply #13 on:** October 18, 2013, 02:32:38 PM »

If player safety is our goal, then too close gets you 15 and a shower.

If not, just look the other way. If you were ever on a field where a player died, maybe your thought process would be a touch less forgiving. Having the kids parents tell you it was not your fault is helpful but don't make it go away.

psv · « **Reply #14 on:** October 19, 2013, 08:46:56 AM »

Quote from: BankerRef on October 18, 2013, 11:10:17 AM

A lack of consistency especially in the IR booth will contribute greatly to the confusion regarding the rule. I know A&M has to be confused after the explanation issued on the Everett DQ that was upheld in the Rice game.

This. How was Everett ejected for a much cleaner and more clear cut hit with the shoulder to the shoulder and the first one against Evans gets reversed.

First off, he launched. both of his feet were off the ground when he made contact and he definitely pushed up. Second, while his shoulder made contact with Evans shoulder, his helmet also made contact with Evans helmet. (1:15 shows the start of the launch, 1:16 shows contact with the helmets).

As far as high school goes, I have only had one close call so far this year. What I mean by that, the player missed. All the elements were there (launch, leading with the elbow) he simply missed and didn't make contact.

SouthGARef · « **Reply #15 on:** October 19, 2013, 12:37:19 PM »

So that play gets overturned, but this gets upheld:

The problem isn't the rule. The problem is the absolute inconsistency in the process. You can't blame this on different coordinators, either.

dvasques · « **Reply #16 on:** October 19, 2013, 02:08:24 PM »

Hard to understand why this one was upheld and even why was this called targeting instead of just roughing

SouthGARef · « **Reply #17 on:** October 19, 2013, 06:35:20 PM »

Quote from: SouthGARef on October 19, 2013, 12:37:19 PM

Targeting. Ejection. Confirmed by replay.

No foul.

I am thoroughly confused.

StudyingFutureZebra · « **Reply #18 on:** October 19, 2013, 07:30:18 PM »

USA Today is now reporting that the Vanderbilt/Georgia targeting call is the worst call of the 2013 college football season.

Welpe · « **Reply #19 on:** October 19, 2013, 09:47:31 PM »

Quote from: StudyingFutureZebra on October 19, 2013, 07:30:18 PM

USA Today is now reporting that the Vanderbilt/Georgia targeting call is the worst call of the 2013 college football season.

Yeah well everyone's an expert these days.

InsideTheStripes · « **Reply #20 on:** October 19, 2013, 11:05:51 PM »

Quote from: Welpe on October 19, 2013, 09:47:31 PM

Yeah well everyone's an expert these days.

+1

JasonTX · « **Reply #21 on:** October 20, 2013, 01:26:52 PM »

Did anyone else notice that the R in the Vandy clip was already pulling his flag out before contact was even made. Rule #1: Do not anticipate a foul.

TxSkyBolt · « **Reply #22 on:** October 20, 2013, 07:36:19 PM »

I think maybe he double clutched on the block prior to the RPS. Can't believe he'd be that quick on the RPS.

Rulesman · « **Reply #23 on:** October 20, 2013, 07:50:40 PM »

Quote from: JasonTX on October 20, 2013, 01:26:52 PM

Did anyone else notice that the R in the Vandy clip was already pulling his flag out before contact was even made.

To do something like that is way out of character for him.

SouthGARef · « **Reply #24 on:** October 20, 2013, 09:01:20 PM »

Others have speculated that the initial pulling of the flag was for a holding. I'm inclined to agree.