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Re: UNC / Clemson offsides on free kick
« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2015, 08:44:44 AM »
Quote from: Osric Pureheart on December 07, 2015, 08:34:50 AM
Can you imagine trying to explain this to a rookie official?  Or any non-official who knows anything about football?  Even by the skewed standards of the rulebook it defies all sense.

I would agree - in real time there is virtually no measurable time from ball contact to defender contact.  The B player is still in the air at the top of his jump when hit.  I don't see any way that this gives B any reasonable opportunity to catch the kick as required by rule.
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Re: UNC / Clemson offsides on free kick
« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2015, 08:48:52 AM »
Quote from: bossman72 on December 07, 2015, 08:41:51 AM
No, this is not what the rule was intending to prevent.  The ball needs to be driven IMMEDIATELY into the ground - basically right in front of the tee - for the receivers to get protection.  This was a "traditional" onside kick with the bounce happening at the 40, so no KCI protection.

Agreed, but I believe the KCI question was regarding the 2nd kick?  The 2nd kick was a driven into the ground 1 high hop kick.
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Re: UNC / Clemson offsides on free kick
« Reply #27 on: December 07, 2015, 08:55:46 AM »
To be clear ,the possible KCI is on the 2d kick off not the first.
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Re: UNC / Clemson offsides on free kick
« Reply #28 on: December 07, 2015, 11:04:42 AM »
Interestingly enough(or not), the one flagged for OS recovered the kick.
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Re: UNC / Clemson offsides on free kick
« Reply #29 on: December 07, 2015, 02:00:15 PM »
This got posted to the wrong thread! Ignore.
« Last Edit: December 07, 2015, 06:09:27 PM by pjsaul »
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Re: UNC / Clemson offsides on free kick
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Re: UNC / Clemson offsides on free kick
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Re: UNC / Clemson offsides on free kick
« Reply #32 on: December 07, 2015, 10:40:13 PM »
Quote from: NVFOA_Ump on December 07, 2015, 08:48:52 AM
Agreed, but I believe the KCI question was regarding the 2nd kick?  The 2nd kick was a driven into the ground 1 high hop kick.

Ah, ok!  Gotcha.  Yes, the 2nd kick I would give KCI protection.  That is immediate.  However, I don't have a foul on this play.  He did not signal fair catch, so his protection ends the moment he touches the ball.
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