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Live ball treated like a deadball
« on: September 07, 2014, 12:45:19 AM »
From Rules by Topic why would this not be a live ball treated like a deadball ?? Thx
10.2.2 SITUATION B: A1's pass is intercepted by B1 at B's 40-yard line. During B1's return, A1 and B2 begin fighting at A's 40-yard line. B1 returns the ball to A's 2-yard line. RULING: The captain of B (last team in possession) may accept or decline the penalty for A's foul. If B accepts the penalty for A1's foul, it creates a double foul. B may retain possession by declining the penalty for A1's foul, in which case, it would be B's ball at its own 45-yard line following enforcement of B's penalty (if accepted by A). Both A1 and B2 will be disqualified for fighting.
COMMENT: Whenever both teams foul during a change of possession and the team in final possession gets the ball free of a foul (with “CLEAN HANDS") they have the opportunity to retain possession. The fact that their opponent's foul occurred after the change of possession has no bearing on the enforcement. However, when B, the "clean hands" team, retains possession by declining the opponent's foul, the penalty for B's foul may be enforced (9-4-1 Penalty; 10-2-1b).
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Re: Live ball treated like a deadball
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2014, 08:05:23 AM »
The two fouls for fighting would be personal fouls.  Only an unsportsmanlike foul during the down would be treated like a dead ball foul and enforced from the succeeding spot.

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Re: Live ball treated like a deadball
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2014, 09:01:48 AM »
Unsportsmanlike, or a nonplayer foul such as unintentional contact with an official.

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Re: Live ball treated like a deadball
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2014, 12:59:28 PM »
Think the "sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me" philosophy. The theory is that a non-contact USC (taunting, showboating, etc) didn't have any baring on the outcome of the play while the live ball PFs could have, thus they need to be treated as live ball fouls (see my topic "Play of the week").